TD5 engine life - discuss

A quick comment on 'over servicing'. It is most certainly the introduction of contaminates that does the damage. That or tradesman induced faults - loose fittings, under/over filling, incorrect fluid etc.
I remember being part of a team that was assembled to try and find the root cause of a number of catastrophic transmission failures in a piece of kit. Turns out that failure was caused by lack of oil circulation in the trans, which caused the oil in the trans to overheat, often to the point of 'charring'. What caused the lack of circulation? A 'micron' filter was blocked in all cases. Blocked with lint. Lint that was traced back to rags used to wipe the dipstick on daily and hourly checks. Turns out the dip stick had a knurled cross hatched area to indicate fluid level. Wiping the stick snagged lint which was then dipped back in the trans. We changed the stick design as well as the check procedure to exclude cloth wiping. Fixed. No probs now for over ten years.

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Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

A quick comment on 'over servicing'. It is most certainly the introduction of contaminates that does the damage. That or tradesman induced faults - loose fittings, under/over filling, incorrect fluid etc.
I remember being part of a team that was assembled to try and find the root cause of a number of catastrophic transmission failures in a piece of kit. Turns out that failure was caused by lack of oil circulation in the trans, which caused the oil in the trans to overheat, often to the point of 'charring'. What caused the lack of circulation? A 'micron' filter was blocked in all cases. Blocked with lint. Lint that was traced back to rags used to wipe the dipstick on daily and hourly checks. Turns out the dip stick had a knurled cross hatched area to indicate fluid level. Wiping the stick snagged lint which was then dipped back in the trans. We changed the stick design as well as the check procedure to exclude cloth wiping. Fixed. No probs now for over ten years.

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Sorry, nothing will convince me 5,000 km services are bad for the vehicle. I know about the diesel oils [ omd 112, oil mineral detergent, used on naval diesels] And yes, they are supposed to get black. The owner before me did those service intervals, 384,00 km's later, the only thing's going wrong are hanging off the engine. Fair wear & tear. Land rover drivers are meant to be slightly eccentric, that's my eccentricity. cheers, Bob

No one said "servicing your vehicle at 5000km is bad for it"
People have said "Servicing your vehicle at 5000km is a waste of money/oil/filters" (Which it is), and people have said "The more you service a vehicle, the more frequently you are opening the system, thus the greater the chances of contaminants entering the system, which CAN be VERY bad".
The Td5 had for it's time one of the very best oil filtration systems. Hence why Land Rover recommended a 20 000km service interval. Now I personally do mine anywhere from 10-15k kms, but DiscoDB on here has done it at 20k for as long as he's had it, and he's above 400k kms.
So no, there's nothing wrong with doing services at 5000kms, BESIDES the fact that you're throwing away oil that is perfectly good.
Oil and filters might be cheap, but there's no point short changing it.

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Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

Blocked with lint. Lint that was traced back to rags used to wipe the dipstick

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I have serviced hundreds of autos in my day. I have come across lots that had lint in the filters. In these case not enough to cause problems, but yes I have seen lots of this.

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

No one said "servicing your vehicle at 5000km is bad for it"

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Poor choice of words, I must admit. However, I don't have a mistress, to throw money at, so I indulge my D2. Besides, the oil is not wasted. It goes into my son's clapped out dunnydore, saves him a bit of money. Bob

I should add to my last post, I understand I'm putting diesel engine oil into a petrol engine. It works, just doesn't work the other way around. At least it gets my boy to & from work, has for a while. He's saving for a new car, I'm trying to convince him a defender would be perfect for him. Bob

I've got distinctive cough lag and lack of power when revving engine and all of a sudden the revs climb dramatically. I've been told it's probably the ECU harness has oil in it but I haven't checked yet. Is it an expensive part? Hard to fix ? Whilst I'm at it I have a fuel light on constantly too despite the tank being full. I lead to believe the fuel sender unit in the tank is a simple job and part around $100? Any advice appreciated
Adam

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Originally Posted by Becnadam

I've got distinctive cough lag and lack of power when revving engine and all of a sudden the revs climb dramatically. I've been told it's probably the ECU harness has oil in it but I haven't checked yet. Is it an expensive part? Hard to fix ? Whilst I'm at it I have a fuel light on constantly too despite the tank being full. I lead to believe the fuel sender unit in the tank is a simple job and part around $100? Any advice appreciated
Adam

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Can't help on the fuel light, but can with injector harness. Not a hard job to replace. Firstly pop the plug off where it comes out of the head at the front drivers side.

If you have oil in the plug it is on its way to the ECU if it has not yet arrived.

Get a new engine harness and clean the oil from the main loom.

Have a read of this thread
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-...wires-ecu.html

especially post number 10 and in the last post open the links at the bottom.

Thanks Dave,
I'm new at this 4 x 4 stuff have owned muscle cars and jap cars but no 4x4's i read that thread cheers. It didn't however say how much an injector loom is nor where to get parts? Is there a LR one stop guru shop on the east coast I can go to on the net and order up?
thanks again
Adam

Injector harness part number AMR6103, mario at roverlord offroad spares who is a membe and vendor on AULRO will be able to sort you out.

Jc