TD5 engine life - discuss

Firstly great thread.

Tomeraider you mention two bokes with over 300k. That does not say anything of the issues they have had. Also that rant about Toyo's I don't think is fair, just as any Toyo driver could say the same about Landies. For arguments sake my old man has got a '94 Lancruiser GLX turbo dielsl with 400k on the clock. Been around Aust twice, Gibb River, Simpson and I have flogged it too around the city when I was younger. Apart from a suspension lift he's hardly spent a cent on repairs, and he's an ex-machanic so it's cost him nick in servicing compared to my Td5. Apart from the shocking mileage I would have one in a second, they sure have a lot more top end pull than my defender.

I have '01 Td5 Fender. Brought with 70k on it 12 months ago.

Now done 115k and no problems with the motor, and service book says nothing before I owned. I do have oil in the ecu box but have not had it looked at and does not seem to be creating any problems yet. Closest service agent is a few hundred km's, so will have to wait a week or so.

I do think my Td5 seems very poor when cold and I don't know if it seems to be getting worse. I have a mate with a Td5 Discovery auto and the motor seems a lot smoother and better from cold, may just be the extra sound protection.

No leaks, filters always clean as. Also I quite often pull a flat bed trailer at 2.2 tonnes. Must admit the motor seems to like a load and I do a lot of high speed km's which suits this engine fine.

I am getting rather anxious however at the longevity and costs invoved with issues.

Carn guy's someone has to have a Td5 with a few hundred on it by now???

Just an afterthought. Perhaps it's the new technology and electronics that scare us a bit. I mean what engine does not have some design problems, look at the 300tdi for example with the timming belt.

There is hardly a new 4wd on the market with a motor that you could fix most things in the bust. The Td5 s a very advance motor in a not very advanced vehicle, I'm taking defender here.

Most of us brought defenders because we liked the simplistic, hardy design that gives the impression that with a little bit of mechanical knowledge and a spanner we could fix it anywhere. The Td5 seems to go against this school of thought.

Hi Edd
Yours also has the big ECU/intercooler and auto conversion hasnt it????I wonder if its a factor in your woes or just "normal"
My Disco TD5 has 214000ks on it,but good country ks(vehicle is ex Broome,servicing done in Perth) with all the services done,almost all by the selling dealer.
Ive had it for 16 months,had 198000ks when I bought it.Done trips to Albany,Cervantes and Esperance all good.Done a fair bit of playing off road,and all last winter cut firewood on saturdays,which involves a 90km round trip towing 1 1/2 to 2 tonnes of wood on a 600kg trailer,sometimes twice on the same saturday.
Up to recently all was very good,head gasket was leaking at 213000ks,oil in the harness at the same time.Cheap fix as I caught it leaking before any damage was done.Just before this the fuel pressure reg was leaking,so perhaps Ive had the "comes in 3s" and normality will be restored soon.
Still not running 100%,wants to stall on take off,"diesel clatter" on idle is louder than usual,electric fan running all the time and performance seems restricted.Waiting to get the ECU read as it may be in some sort of protection mode since the head gasket problem(HOPING!!!!!!!).
Andrew

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Originally Posted by tombraider

Sorry to hear mate....

But dont kid yourself with Toymotors...

The sales guy WONT tell you that at 150,000kms on the Diesel your supposed to remove and replace the ENTIRE injection system at a cost of over $5000

And get used to gearboxes, CVs, Diff centres, Axles, Radiators, Bent Diff assemblies, broken suspension arms..

Oh yeah, and a void of warranty if you change suspension or add electricals to the vehicle not approved by Toyota.

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dont forget

void warrenty if there are dings in any part of the underbody that might be due to offroad uses

void warrenty if there is water ingress in any oil compartment and they think
you may have forded past the bottom of the axle housing

Void drive line warrenty if you fit a heavy duty tow pack and dont fork out for the extra tough driveline stuff (father in law tows a horse float and has had only dealer servicing done, blown tcase and no warrenty due to "known to tow heavy loads long distance")

Void engine warrenty if handbook start up/shut down procedures are suspected to have not been followed.

Void warrenty if ECU shows over speed on engine.

Yeah I'll have a toyota.....Right after I put an auto in Kermit, next thing on my list, honest.

Well I dont have an answer for people looking for 300k plus TD5.

Mine is a 2000 model TD5 in an auto disco. Owned it 12 months and done 16,000km, now just hit the 100,000km mark.

Just discovered the oil in the harness - have cleaned it out but haven't replaced the harness (yet), but it hasn't given any trouble, and now I know it is there I can be prepared (thanks for the help Andy).

2 x water leaks, 1 from the water pump and the other from the bottom right of the radiator (looses about 200ml/tank of fuel)

Lots of oil leaks, nothing that seems serious, it just seems to oose.

Auto slips when you first put it into D or R when it is cold (the auto). i.e. when I put it in R to reverse out of my drive way in the morning, it initially rolls forward, unless you use extra throttle.

Rear diff wine.

Out of balance something which gives a nasty vibration at about 100km/h.

Grinding in the steering (turning right).

Thats about all I can think of for now. However, like many others on this forum, for some strange reason, I would probably still buy another one!?!

Edit: Just remembered this is a TD5 topic and not about the complete LR experience, so you can ignore the last 5 problems if you like.

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

dont forget

void warrenty if there are dings in any part of the underbody that might be due to offroad uses

void warrenty if there is water ingress in any oil compartment and they think
you may have forded past the bottom of the axle housing

Void drive line warrenty if you fit a heavy duty tow pack and dont fork out for the extra tough driveline stuff (father in law tows a horse float and has had only dealer servicing done, blown tcase and no warrenty due to "known to tow heavy loads long distance")

Void engine warrenty if handbook start up/shut down procedures are suspected to have not been followed.

Void warrenty if ECU shows over speed on engine.

Yeah I'll have a toyota.....Right after I put an auto in Kermit, next thing on my list, honest.

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Sounds like a warranty given by a company that makes normal everyday run of the mill cars. Oh wait.......they do make cars........maybe they just changed the heading on the warranty, from "Corolla" to "Land Cruiser.":D

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Originally Posted by Sequel

Rear diff wine.

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You really must have the Land Rover bug if you drink what comes out of your rear diff! :p

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Originally Posted by tombraider

Oh yeah, and a void of warranty if you change suspension or add electricals to the vehicle not approved by Toyota.

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I don't want to hi-jack my own thread but friends had a prado on a Simpson trip with us and the rear diff broke. Toyota fought tooth and nail to say it wasn't being used in a acceptable way - it was off road. :(

Evening all,
My 01my TD5 Auto has 230,000 odd k's on it.
I bought the vehicle with 190,000k on it. I also knew the 1 original owner before me & have a full service history with a dealer, i also have full access to the original work done to the vehicle at work (MLR).;)
I had the vehicle chipped & Intercooled at 205,000k so..

The full history on the vehicle is basically-
Up too 100,000k all warranty including all recalls, D148,149,263 & cant remember the rest..Minor things like clips, drinks tray & thats about all.
85,000k & 193,000k Injector harness
145,000k Radiator & Coolant
170,000k Water pump & O ring
215,000k Oil Cooler pipes (both)
215,000k Cam plug & rocker cover gasket leaking
220,000 M & S lights flashing-2 cut wires atop the T/case-resoldered.

Thats basically it. I have done alot of the servicing & have kept it up on the old girl, it has performed effortlessly & with no problems. The later problems i put down to wear & tear. The engine just does what it does, i have no problems with her & did the Simpson last year loaded to the hilt, i dont constantly tow anything but once a month i load the trailer full of crap & head off to the tip-say 1.5 tonne!

What Tombraider & Blknight'says with the Toyoter dealer wrt Warranty is very true, be careful as LR have one of the best warranty systems(i can hear everyone chuckling now:p )available for the customer.

I also have a good friend who has a Def 110 with over 300,000k on his unit, he has just ordered a 130Cr/Cab for his touring business, hes not trading in the 110..:)
Hope this helps

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Originally Posted by sniegy

Evening all,
My 01my TD5 Auto has 230,000 odd k's on it.
I bought the vehicle with 190,000k on it. I also knew the 1 original owner before me & have a full service history with a dealer, i also have full access to the original work done to the vehicle at work (MLR).;)
I had the vehicle chipped & Intercooled at 205,000k so..

The full history on the vehicle is basically-
Up too 100,000k all warranty including all recalls, D148,149,263 & cant remember the rest..Minor things like clips, drinks tray & thats about all.
85,000k & 193,000k Injector harness
145,000k Radiator & Coolant
170,000k Water pump & O ring
215,000k Oil Cooler pipes (both)
215,000k Cam plug & rocker cover gasket leaking
220,000 M & S lights flashing-2 cut wires atop the T/case-resoldered.

Thats basically it. I have done alot of the servicing & have kept it up on the old girl, it has performed effortlessly & with no problems. The later problems i put down to wear & tear. The engine just does what it does, i have no problems with her & did the Simpson last year loaded to the hilt, i dont constantly tow anything but once a month i load the trailer full of crap & head off to the tip-say 1.5 tonne!

What Tombraider & Blknight'says with the Toyoter dealer wrt Warranty is very true, be careful as LR have one of the best warranty systems(i can hear everyone chuckling now:p )available for the customer.

I also have a good friend who has a Def 110 with over 300,000k on his unit, he has just ordered a 130Cr/Cab for his touring business, hes not trading in the 110..:)
Hope this helps

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I wouldnt say its the best, especially now ford has taken over...

They'll shift hell and high water to fix anything that is safety or GO/stop related but just try and get em to fix a niggler like a door that wont shut properly on the first go...

Strangely toyota seem to do it opposite, so long as its a cosmetic fix no problems but actually break something important.......