Thread: Check Engine Light - Freelander

Originally Posted by garrycol

That is Canberra Motor Works - my disco always ran bad after it had been there and my wallet was always a hell of a lot lighter afterwards and I usually spent the next two weeks fixing the car myself. The last time I was there the car managed to get from the "specialist" to the Tuggy Parkway before it broke down after I had just spent nearly $600 fixing a slight miss.

I am afraid I would never recommend them. Morwoods in Fyshwick are good but don't have a machine to read codes. I will go through the books and Rave tonite and see what I come up with - at least the car runs OK and it is not an issue that is likely to cause damage.

Gazzz

Yea I use Morwood for my parts. The other place is Canberra motor works. They used to maintain my beast for the previous owner. I have only used them once to clear my faults after the rebuild. I have heard they are expensive but he only charged me $50 probably because I told all the work I had done since buying it.

98 Freelander diesel uses a Bosch EDC ... if it helps

I have been through the rave disk - agree the most likely culprit is the coolant temp sensor and or the air temp sensor. Removed both tonite and replaced just to see if there was anything obvious - of course there was not and when reinstalled of course the fault remains - so I guess it is off to get the codes checked - gee whizz I hate stealers.

As a side the air temp sensor that sits in the inlet manifold was covered in thick, black gunk so I guess that the entire inlet system including the intercooler is the same so maybe a cleanout is needed - as it doesn't burn oil I assume the oil seals in the turbo are OK and the oil deposits are just the result of 213K use.

Thanks for the help.

Garry

How is this for the way ahead for future serviceing by Landrover.

I rang the stealer to book in to get the codes read - I have to supply the rego number and Vin Number before they will even book the car in.

I said that I didn't have the Vin with me but you don't need any of that to just read the codes - they said sorry we cannot book the car in.

OK - why don't you book the car in and I can either ring in the Vin or better still get it off the car when it is in.

Response - sorry sir but our computer system does not allow the booking of a car in for work without all the relevant fields being filled and that includes rego and vin. No VIN = No booking.

My response - no booking = no work to your garage forever

WTF - no wonder stealers get a bad name.

Result is that I will make alternative arrangements cause as a matter of principle I am not going near them. Might have to go to the crappy specialist afterall - at least they do not need 'all the fields' on their computer filled in before a booking is made.

You wouldn't buy a new landrover for the servicing support.

Gazzz

I'd ring back ask for the manager of the dealership and tell them what has happened. If their booking system is that flawed then yes they deserve to loose business, sounds more like an unimaginative type manning the bookings.

I'd imagine they're doing that to make it easier when you drop the car off. I'm sure there's nothing sinister about it.

These days, all the job cards are done by computer & it can take a while to load all the neccessary info into all the fields for a "new" customer.
To save themselves & yourself 10-15min at the busiest time of the day (first thing in the morning), they can have the job card pre-printed the day before & have it all ready for you to sign when you drop off the Freelander.

I'd say to get a basic job card done, they'd need your VIN & rego #. They can get the other details from LR (Viking) that they need: engine number, model type, colour, year..........& enter them accordingly.

Hey Scott - I am sure you are right - it does seem to be all about making things easier for the stealer rather than the customer - cause I didn't have the Vin so wasn't able to book the car in - now booked in elsewhere for next week because when I rang they didn't need the VIN and were happy to book in then and there.

Tonite I removed the air sensor and the coolant sensor and put a multimeter on them testing resistance from boiling water temp to -18 in the freezer. All tests pointed different resistances with different temps so both seemed to be working OK. Tested the wires going to the sensors and got the required 5v so there is no wiring problem.

I put the sensors back in the engine but the problem was still there so I disconnected the wires to both - engine started OK without the sensors and the check engine light didn't come on (strange cause I would have thought the ECU should have realised the sensors were not connected).

I connected the air temp sensor and there were no problems but when I connected the coolant sensor the engine revved on start and the engine check light came on - I disconnected the air sensor and the fault remained so it would seem that the water coolant sensor is faulty when it is hot but not when it is cold.

I will get a new sensor and see what happens and if all is OK cancel the code test.

Gazzz

Originally Posted by garrycol

How is this for the way ahead for future serviceing by Landrover.

I rang the stealer to book in to get the codes read - I have to supply the rego number and Vin Number before they will even book the car in.

I said that I didn't have the Vin with me but you don't need any of that to just read the codes - they said sorry we cannot book the car in.

OK - why don't you book the car in and I can either ring in the Vin or better still get it off the car when it is in.

Response - sorry sir but our computer system does not allow the booking of a car in for work without all the relevant fields being filled and that includes rego and vin. No VIN = No booking.

My response - no booking = no work to your garage forever

WTF - no wonder stealers get a bad name.

Result is that I will make alternative arrangements cause as a matter of principle I am not going near them. Might have to go to the crappy specialist afterall - at least they do not need 'all the fields' on their computer filled in before a booking is made.

You wouldn't buy a new landrover for the servicing support.

Gazzz

That dealer does the same when you ring up for any parts to. They want year model and vin before they give you the parts price.