Why do I hear lots of bad things about the Discovery series 2?

I doubt if the Disco 2 really has a lot of problems compared to the late Disco 1 for example. But one factor that may make it seem that way is that the D1 was in most respects a direct evolution of the original RR - and they had had twenty years to get it right in a lot of respects.
The D2 was very much a new design along the same lines, which means not only were there a lot of bits that were relatively untried, but the parts that were common (or at least interchangeable) often don't fit, so you have no choice but new, expensive parts specific to the D2, which makes repairs a lot more expensive than for the same repair on the D1. e.g. I understand wheel bearings are in this category, but the most obvious one is wheels - D1 can use at a pinch any Landrover wheel back to 1948 - but D2 has a new stud pattern.
While the newer design is not necessarily less reliable - and it should be more reliable - the need for parts specific to the D2 can make repairs a lot more expensive for a specific instance, even though overall running costs may be no more or even less.

John

If I was purchasing today.. I'd Probably go a DII TD5

I love my V8... but the economy and range are a bit sad.

As far as are the DII's bad.. no way. I've had less drama with this than many other car's I have owned and it has done a fair bit of outback touring and off road.

You ask is the DII injection "that bad" - simple answer is NO. If you want to put it on gas - just be careful which gas system you use. There are good ones around - but not all will work. This is not because the injection system is bad - it is because many of the earlier gas systems are simply not compatible with the ECU for the vehicle. LPG 1 in Lilydale do one that works well.

I would definitely suggest you get your bum into a few and drive them - there is a significant difference in driving between a DI and a DII.... you might find that after driving both the answer to your decision gets easier.

Which vehicle is right for you really depend so much on how you plan to use it..

Mark

Id buy another D2 TD5 anyday. They are great on and offroad. Only problems you'll find is the lack of aftermarket equipment for it,(as opposed to any other LR model and of course every other make and model of 4wd in the world) but this is getting better all the time

If I had my time again I would have kept my D1 and skipped the whole D2 experience;)

well i am looking buying a D1 V8 for a toy and a D2 TD5 for family car and touring
my brother has a 2000 D2 TD5 and has done 208,000k's in it in the past 2.5 years He loves it and will be keeping it untill it dies. He drives up and down to work every day which is a round trip of about 350 K's a day
The cars has not given him any trouble for the day he has bought it. Apart from last weekend when i wondered what the problme was . Thought it was dirty fuel, was told by a dealer it was oil in the wiring loom and need a new ecu. So went somwhere else . In the end it was a split turbo hose. He is still happy with it and after all the car is pushing 320,000k's on the clock . So you can accept things like that

MMmmmm! Interesting reading. Might look a little harder at the D2 option by the sounds of it. It will live the first few years of its life as the "family" car until my faithful little landcruiser dies a horrible death (5 years tops I reckon). Then it becomes my driver and camping/ hunting bus, so spares and acces.. may be cheaper and more available by that stage.

The D1 and D2 are totally different cars,

I wouldnt have a diesel if one was given to me.

Fuel economy is not THE reason we buy 4wds.

and if it is

the difference in purchase price will mean a LONG term owner MAY recoup their "Almighty" dollars.

may.

give me a break.

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Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

The D1 and D2 are totally different cars,

I wouldnt have a diesel if one was given to me.

Fuel economy is not THE reason we buy 4wds.

and if it is

the difference in purchase price will mean a LONG term owner MAY recoup their "Almighty" dollars.

may.

give me a break.

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Oh Pedro, may you never grow up / old / wise.... :cool:

Disco 2 V8 for sale nearby... $11000.00
Disco 2 TD5 (similar km's)... $23000.00

Which ones going to recover his costs ;)

:wasntme:

in fuel???

never!!!!!!!:D

Pedro - Depends on what you want your 4WD for. If you want to go touring the diesel is perfect. Same fuel capacity gets you neary twice as far (or conversely you only have to carry half as much fuel = weight). Once you are cruising at 110 it doesn't matter if you've got diesel or petrol.