Why do I hear lots of bad things about the Discovery series 2?

For LPG you will need a vapour injection to suit the sequential/closed loop system. You would be crazy to put low tech gas in a D11 anyway.... I had mine done the other day and am extremely happy with it. Slight decrese in power, slight increase in consumptionbut still lots of fun to drive. Gas is $00.53 a litre and you'll be doign 18-20l/100k

Start cruising ebay for a manifold tank becuase they don't make them any more and your installer will sell them faster than hot cakes.

Shop around for an installer.... most wont touch it, some will do it but wont make it a decent 4x4 install. E.G filler on low panel and wiring and ECU in bonnet near water dust and heat! (Mine's like this but Work in Progress)

LPG install is going to cost you over $4000 incl tank minus rebate....30000k a year should get it back in 1-2 years!

If you thrash the Dii v8 the fuel consumption will blow you away.... but you will be smiling.

With gas and a long range tank you will max out at 1000k range. So the Gunbarrel isn't for you!

A V8 D11 even without a CDL will eat sand for brekky contrary to what you hear. Mud rocks and hills are not going to bother it that much either. I'll show you the Vid of mine digging itself out if you want .... If you lose sleep then put a CDL in it, you can get kits for about $400, or a whole new tranny case with aftermarket CDL Lever will cost you $2500 installed.

If you haven't tried traction control off road it will change your life and the exterior appearance of your truck because you wont be able to stay away from the rough stuff..

And that's BS about aftermarket stuff... You can easily get a front and rear bar, long range tanks, 2nd battery and trays, rear drawers, suspension, roof racks, under body protection from a variety of sources - what are you people missing!

A second hand Dii with FSH that's been under warranty for three years is not going to give you any more problems than anything else... And most of the time, it's not the vehicles that are the problem it the moron Service departments in greedy dealerships so go to Uncle Greame Cooper, Mr MR, or any of the dedicated NON DEALER mechs listed on this site and you will have a few if any problems.

These are good cars, and you will miss it when you drive anything else because they are just that good to drive....

If you are in Bris and want to check mine out PM me and you can come over and go for a blast....

That is all.

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Originally Posted by mrapocalypse

For LPG you will need a vapour injection to suit the sequential/closed loop system. You would be crazy to put low tech gas in a D11 anyway.... I had mine done the other day and am extremely happy with it. Slight decrese in power, slight increase in consumptionbut still lots of fun to drive. Gas is $00.53 a litre and you'll be doign 18-20l/100k

Start cruising ebay for a manifold tank becuase they don't make them any more and your installer will sell them faster than hot cakes.

Shop around for an installer.... most wont touch it, some will do it but wont make it a decent 4x4 install. E.G filler on low panel and wiring and ECU in bonnet near water dust and heat! (Mine's like this but Work in Progress)

LPG install is going to cost you over $4000 incl tank minus rebate....30000k a year should get it back in 1-2 years!

If you thrash the Dii v8 the fuel consumption will blow you away.... but you will be smiling.

With gas and a long range tank you will max out at 1000k range. So the Gunbarrel isn't for you!

A V8 D11 even without a CDL will eat sand for brekky contrary to what you hear. Mud rocks and hills are not going to bother it that much either. I'll show you the Vid of mine digging itself out if you want .... If you lose sleep then put a CDL in it, you can get kits for about $400, or a whole new tranny case with aftermarket CDL Lever will cost you $2500 installed.

If you haven't tried traction control off road it will change your life and the exterior appearance of your truck because you wont be able to stay away from the rough stuff..

And that's BS about aftermarket stuff... You can easily get a front and rear bar, long range tanks, 2nd battery and trays, rear drawers, suspension, roof racks, under body protection from a variety of sources - what are you people missing!

A second hand Dii with FSH that's been under warranty for three years is not going to give you any more problems than anything else... And most of the time, it's not the vehicles that are the problem it the moron Service departments in greedy dealerships so go to Uncle Greame Cooper, Mr MR, or any of the dedicated NON DEALER mechs listed on this site and you will have a few if any problems.

These are good cars, and you will miss it when you drive anything else because they are just that good to drive....

If you are in Bris and want to check mine out PM me and you can come over and go for a blast....

That is all.

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A mate of mine has a 02 td5 Disco without CDL and the ETC decided to crap itself halfway up a hill (not very convient) and then detonated the rear diff a short time after :eek: . If he had a CDL this would of been advoided as the strain on the mechanical components would have been more evenly spread and the ETC in conjunction with the CDL works exceptionaly well. Still not like cross axle diff locks but better than nothing :)

You're right, they'll go quite a way without but my argument here is I'd rather have it than not. The ETC works a hell of a lot harder without the CDL and since the traction control is driven by the ABS brakes, which in turn would overheat after long runs on the beach. I personally would find it a real PIA on sand, but never having had a LR with ETC I'm not to know. I would want to disengage it as most beach runs you can drive the bloody thing open all round til you hit the soft stuff.

I'm not a big fan of LPG as I have had a bad experience with the stuff on my 93 Disco I owned a few years back and it was a real PIA. I vowed I'd never own a LPG Rangie/Disco ever again and if I had bought one with LPG, I'd be taking it off ASAP :mad: :mad:

Someone told me one that 'Gas is for BBQ's!!!!!'

Trav

I strongly agree with what Mropocalypse said.

If serviced by a propper Landie mechanic the D2 is a great car that you should not worry about.

I use to get my car serviced with the stealer at 100,000 I found Graeme Coopers. Since going to Coopers for the last year and a half I have more confidence in my D2. It does not even leak oil any more. Makes me wonder what the stealer was doing or lack of it.

If properly serviced with a Landie mechanic I would not hesitate to buy another D2.

If the Traction control stopped working it would result in wheel spin and not a blown diff because for the Traction control to be working it must have locked a wheel that was spinning! If the drive can find the point of lowest traction that's where it will go... not to the wheels that are hanging on.. If you had a centre diff engaged then then he's more likely to bust his rear diff than with a Crapping itself TC! It's a constant four wheel drive principal.

If you are basing your entire assessement of LPG Systems on a 93 disco you had once then maybe you should email the R & D dept at land Rover cos I'm sure they'd love to hear from you. That kind of research is pricelss.

After being involved in the motor industry those that have trouble with gas tend to have the cheapest system fitted. (Of course not always by them, often by whoever owned it before) It's like most things, you get what you pay for. Cheap general system will work on most makes/models just not as well or for as long.

Those I've met that swear by gas (4x4 & 4x2) generally have one of the dearer brands fitted and regularly, or regularly get the vehicle serviced.

Look at how many taxi's run gas systems (just about all isn't it) with very little trouble from the gas system. (Ask them how long a battery lasts in that sort of use though!)

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If you thrash the Dii v8 the fuel consumption will blow you away.... but you will be smiling.

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As they with the V8

If you kick it it will kick you back harder :cool:

Whereas with a diesel if you kick it will...........................








Clatter clatter clatter






Whisle whistle whislte....




Oh, NOTHING HAPPENED!!!!!!..:o

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Whereas with a diesel if you kick it will...........................








Clatter clatter clatter






Whisle whistle whislte....




Oh, NOTHING HAPPENED!!!!!!..:o

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mmmm driven many diesel have we :angel: :angel:
None i have had do that :)

Reads...

Its OK mate... Those of us with diesels know ;)

Those with the V8s are just reeling with horror.

I bet your Diersel pedal hits the floor a lot more than my V8 does... And YES I have driven plenty of Diesels and NO they are not like V8's! Sorry mate.