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  1. 15th February 2007, 01:21 AM #11
    AT
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    thanks for the input

    now for a stupid question. have a eletric pump lying around belonging to a friend. it belongs in a saloon car.... i cant find the specs anywhere on the output..

    can it work or its better i find a pump that comes off a truck .. even without the specs its still kinda safer to assume it'll work....

    and i discover pple are selling electric hydraulic pumps on ebay with reservior.. comes of a lift gate or camper.. not that expensive too..(used) will that work or just using the saloon car pump would be good enough.
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  2. 15th February 2007, 01:41 AM #12
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    ohh the reason why im giving myself headaches is this.. i would like to have best of both worlds

    hydraulic winch off steering pump...
    when engine is running.. i can winch all day long... but when it dies off.. sometimes it does.. bye bye wincheeee

    electric winch..
    engine running ... can winch but wont last long if theres a need to winch every 50metres of travel.
    and when the engine's dead.. byebye wincheee too cuz amp too high even for a double batt setup(i have that)....

    now THE HYBRID

    engine running... same deal no problems...
    engine's dead.. winching capabilities still available and may last longer then a electric pure breed if i dont go overkill on the electric pump,

    these are the reasons why i need help on finding the best possible electric pump to work the winch effectively without too much of an overkill..

    I feel like a preschooler asking for help on algebra..

    i have a 12000lbs hydraulics... my vehicle is about 2 ton.. with me in it.. that makes 2.1tons + shampoos, soap and my 3 square meals a day... thats about 2.2.. if my gal comes along ...its 2.4tons including her sq meals and shmpooo (am glad she isnt reg in this forum) guess getting a 12000lbs isnt that far off
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  3. 15th February 2007, 04:49 AM #13
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    doing elec over hydraulic to mechanical is not as effecient as going elec or hydraulic alone.

    get a snatch block to make the workload lighter on the winch. (doubles your single line pulll by going to a 2 line pull..

    so long as your gont going to drive it to death every day, a small starter out of say a suzuki sierra on a holden powersteering pump should give you plenty of power and not be stupidly hard on the batteries...
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  4. 15th February 2007, 07:08 AM #14
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    This all depends on what your objectives are and how much money you have.
    Are you talking about general touring with the occasional mud pool/ rock ledge then just go electric.
    The simplest and cheapest winch by far is an electric winch. Set up and maintained will get you out of trouble. Even long extended winching can be done but will need to allow the motor to cool and battery to build back up.
    Hydraulics for some are the ultimate for their extended or multiple usage such as challenge. They come at a hugh cost to be effective.
    I have an ox hydraulic run on the steering pump. Yes it will winch all day but it is PAINFULLY SLOW. Yes winching should be done nice, slow and with the brain in gear but the power steering pump on the Land Rover is inadequate. If it was an option of electric or hydraulic powered by the LR steering pump, electric will win by a mile for general use.
    You said that you had a hydraulic winch. Probably best to go to someone who has it set up such as Maxi Drive engineering. Pumps must be set up for the winch motor. Some of these forces if not done correctly will damage the chassis or mounts. If you have a/c on a Defender for example then due to no more room under the bonnet then a PTO is basically your best option.
    A 12v pump is another option but you are best going o a hydraulic specialist for advise re necessary outputs and amp draw.
    There are a lot of mathematics involved to set up pumps to motors and logistics eg PTO/fan driven pump/electric pump. See a hydraulic specialist.
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