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Glad your questions were answered. The ES model had little driving lights in the bumper. As do all flash vehicles these days it would seem.Quote:
Originally Posted by chazza
So your double filiment brake bulb was already wired for tail lights? You have upper tail lights as well as bumper tail lights?
Do you have upper indicators as well as bumper indicators?
Perhaps the upper tail lights were reintroduced along with the upper indicators?
Nothing. LR must think that people who own their earlier products just sit stationary with rear fog lights on in inclement weather. Not much help if you want to keep moving forward...:pQuote:
Originally Posted by chazza
The only problem with all these mods is down here in vic they frown on people having too many lights on the back, apparently it can get to the point where it's a distraction instead of a warning or marker.
When Mr Plod pulled me over because we was tailgating and I gave him a blast of the 100w reverse light to get him off my tail, he was wanting to book my for too many tail lights saying that it shouldn't have the top ones lit up or some crap.
I got off with a warning (for displaying white light too the rear while traveling in a forward direction) so I looked it up with vicroads and he is actually correct but whether anyone would book you for it would be the question.
RWC is put at question as well.
I have very rarely seen more than brakes and reverse lights lit on the Q panel lights on the updates as was mine when I got it and Brake/tail and indicators were in the bar and the high mount brake.
So your double filiment brake bulb was already wired for tail lights? You have upper tail lights as well as bumper tail lights?
Do you have upper indicators as well as bumper indicators?
Perhaps the upper tail lights were reintroduced along with the upper indicators?[/QUOTE]
Thanks Utemad. Yes to all of the above questions.
I have also got home and read the handbook, which is what I should have done in the first place, instead of wasting everyone's time. Interestingly the fog light switches are on the edge of the instrument shroud, not on the dash panel as the book shows it; perhaps another change. The two switches also have identical markings, which I imagine is very confusing if you have both sets fitted!
cheers Chazza
There is apparently, a very specific reason why some vehicles have lights mounted in the rear bumper - it's the 85% (or 85º????) rule which I understand is an ADR.
This may sound rather kooky, but... and approximately...
if the rear (door or similar) mounted spare wheel tyre obscures vision of the tail lights to those behind on an angle, then those body mounted tail lights are not the go, and thats why we have a duplication of lights, mounted in the rear bumper (or we did, which was nothing more than a patchup job to meet an ADR reg).
BTW: Had this on good authority from a fitter of such who worked for one of the 4wd manufacturers / resellers, rather odd rule tho'............and peculiar to OZ in the 90s.
If you want to hunt the ADRs I'm sure it's there somewhere.
Cheers, GQ
The tail lights must be visible from a 45 deg angle. Which is why there are lights in the rear bar.
My 98 disco has operational tail lights in the bar and rear quarters.
My fog light switch only works if ignition and normal lights are both on.
I think the fog lights could save you being rear ended in fog. I have seen conditions where it was difficult to see tail lights of some vehicles ahead of me.
I didn't know about the wiring for the 2nd filament in the upper stop lights.
I have another use for the fog lights.
I have a Hella work light (dual 55W halogen) mounted from the spare wheel carrier. I have a relay (near the tail lights) so it only works while in reverse and a temporary switch is closed.
When I can get around to it I was intending to add a 2nd relay, switched from the feed to the fog light globe so that the work light operates when the fog lights are on and gearbox is in reverse. Then I can get rid of the temporary switch and wiring.
Thanks bush65, you've nailed it.
My 95 Rossignol had the rear bumper lights but the rear quarters didn't work, except for the white reversing lamps.
We also had a (company) Rocky and a Feroza around this time and the rear quarters were blanked off entirely, in favour of the bumper lights.
GQ
One of the toyota troopys from the same era had grey plastic lights and lights in the bumper that worked, i put a post up ages ago that shwed how to solder the diode in the lights to get the fog light working.
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Originally Posted by Quiggers
But the vehicles sold in both the UK and US also have the same setup......so it's not just to comply with odd ADR specs!