TD5 Power Loss Fixed. Guess What It Was

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Originally Posted by Cameron_Def

Sorry witch hunt may be the wrong words ...

But these forums are very, VERY negative .. imagine if you were someone looking to buy a Defender, came in here and read us bitch and moan about things all the time ..

Its all good and so to Inform people of issues, but we should have a single thread where we point people to about it, and then move on.

I am glad I found this forum, glad I found it after I brought my 110 ... else I would have ran away to a toyo real quick.

Apart from that, the ECU is a common fault, the rest are **** happens... everyone checked there oil pump bolt and I think only 1 found a fault... and not even a fault a possible fault.. I doubt many people on here knows what loctite looks like dried up, let alone covered with oil.

maybe mine is just a monday 110, but its going strong, and today as a reward I replaced even more zink nuts and bolts with stainless..

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"Bitch & moan",

As the one that started this thread I can't see how I or anyone else bitched or moaned, rather reported on factual information to help others that my find themselves in the same out of pocket situation. Isn't that's what the tech section is all about. Helping each other.

We are lucky to have the likes of Justin Cooper come here and give imput as to these issues.

174 000 km so far,pump is getting noisey never ran dry will replace when it hits 180 or get a spare and keep it till the other one packs it in

had a client who ran a trucking business in Tasmania he had fleet of DAK trucks various combinations and configurations he ran the whole fleet on a laptop prgram he designed himself and he ran a preventative maintenance program for the fleet.

he replaced serviced things before they reached critical breakdowns based on his working knowledge of what went wrong on the trucks.

there was one schedule for summer and another winter, especially the trucks doing mine site cartage.

he knew how the drivers were treating the trucks based on the service requirements, one driver he had eye sight tested as he had more left hand tyre scuff damage then right side trye scuff damage turned out the guy was nearly blind in left eye and had been all his life.

his view was it was cheaper to replace the parts on trucks before a breakdown occurred which would mean truck lost for day on side of road, another truck lost to do the broken truck run and the cost of sending a mechanic out to the break down and tow back to the workshops.

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Originally Posted by justinc

Hi Dave, I have done this, and there is primarily a failure of the pump motor brushes and holders, which eventually melt/ wear out. This is accelerated with poor fuel and /or a blocked pickup screen, and there is no way to prevent it. It will happen sooner than later. The pump is not easily replaced with any aftermarket equivalent, at least I haven't found one yet. With the cost of a replacement so high I would be looking for an alternative still, but I fear a dead end ATM.

I could send you the next dead one I get if you like.

JC

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yeah, please mate, I have some ADF stuff to play with and my have source from ADI parts (contract to a civvie company so IF I get it to do what I want I'll post the company and part details) that by specs at least does what I want it to.

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Originally Posted by cartm58

had a client who ran a trucking business in Tasmania he had fleet of DAK trucks various combinations and configurations he ran the whole fleet on a laptop prgram he designed himself and he ran a preventative maintenance program for the fleet.

he replaced serviced things before they reached critical breakdowns based on his working knowledge of what went wrong on the trucks.

there was one schedule for summer and another winter, especially the trucks doing mine site cartage.

he knew how the drivers were treating the trucks based on the service requirements, one driver he had eye sight tested as he had more left hand tyre scuff damage then right side trye scuff damage turned out the guy was nearly blind in left eye and had been all his life.

his view was it was cheaper to replace the parts on trucks before a breakdown occurred which would mean truck lost for day on side of road, another truck lost to do the broken truck run and the cost of sending a mechanic out to the break down and tow back to the workshops.

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This is what I was talking about. IF i had the time to do this with my client base, ( I might still do it...) it would be fantastic. The one big thing I have learnt as a repairer is that people trust you to keep their vehicle going and reliable. Information like this database is the only way to do it properly, and I'm convinced that even if you rang up joe bloggs one friday afternoon to tell him it was time to replace his Td5 discoverys' intank pump as it has reached a stage in its life where the probability of it failing without warning is high enough for me to be making this phone call, He would say ...

' of course, as you know the inconvenience of towing it to your workshop midweek when I have 3 children to drop off at school and the inlaws coming from overseas to tour the state in my car next week would be horrendous, can I have it fitted on MOnday morning at 9?'

To which I would answer 'of course, I will make the arrangements. '

This is a far better scenario than a phone call from the only structure outside the Paynes Find hotel ( A solitary phone booth) to inform me about the failure of the fuel pump.....

Thanks for your kind words AK.

JC