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30th April 2007, 08:53 AM
#1
Could a dead shock cause vibration?
Hi all,
Looking to cure some vibration at 80 kph & over. It can be bad.
- It's through the car, but not the steering wheel per se.
- Changed to different wheels & tyres, no difference
- Rear propshaft was cactus, couldn't be salvaged, replaced. No difference.
- Front d/c shaft was on about 3 yrs, overdue for failure. New one made a small difference.
- Transfer case is rattly on overrun. Could bearings be that bad that the output shafts are slopping around?
The vibration comes & goes, but worse when the freeway veers left. & converesly better going right. Which leads me to the drivers rear corner. After a freeway run last night this corner shock was dead cold. Others had maybe a little heat, but still cool to hold.
Its a Bilstein, with 100,000 plus kms. Bilsteins do just die, rather than deteriorate. Last set had 200,000 kms up before they gave up on the Cordillo Downs road.
Anyway, could an oscillating wheel cause what I'm feeling? Having had two wheels come off before, I'm as nervous as hell with this sensation.
TIA
Max P
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30th April 2007, 09:22 AM
#2
yep, sure can.
I had a bad vibration, just like a wheel out of balance, but the tyre bloke reckoned it was minimal, re-balanced anyway when I decided to check the front Koni's. Drivers front dead. Rebound stack nut came loose 
Re-built shock, then OK.
and FWIW, Billies do go off slowly, as well as having a valve or seal (noticeable !) failure.
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30th April 2007, 12:35 PM
#3
Fast check, look at tyre wear. A worn shocker will allow the wheel to oscilate, especially on coil sprung vehicles.A coil spring starts to oscilate up and down the coils length, in a way a leaf spring can't. This can be very rapid and feel like tailshaft vibration. This will wear the tyre in a saw tooth pattern on the outside edges.
It happens a lot on motorcycles with telescopic front ends. One shocker leg wears more than the other and the whole wheel actually moves of centre during travel and scrubs the tread edge to a wavey saw tooth. Same same on 4 wheel vehicle, especially solid axles, where the movement of one wheel does affect the other. Look at some of the extreme articulation photo's, as the right wheel goes up, it also tips the top in towards the body, the left wheel tucks its bottom edge in under the chassis. In normal road use this is far less pronounced, but, it is there none the less. Even more so with one side uncontrolled by its shock absorber.
I would rebuild or replace both shock absorbers. They work in unison, as a pair. One partly worn, one rebuilt or replaced, you are only giving yourself the same problem mirrored to the other side of the vehicle.
A word of warning on shockers, Learn to hate Munroe Wiley Sensatracs. I did an emergency quality control job for MW in Adelaide during the development of the Sensatrac. It is garbage. Absolute garbage.
Shorty.
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30th April 2007, 08:58 PM
#4
Yep, had this on the S1 Disco. Doubly bad because the shocker bushes were completely shredded on the front end (lowers) - this means a small interval where there is no damping, bad or otherwise. Drove horribly on the highway.
Cheers
Owen.
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30th April 2007, 09:23 PM
#5
had a similar problem, found it to be the front shocks, only after trying everything else and by accident too !!
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30th April 2007, 11:51 PM
#6
shocks arent hard to replace.......borrow a couple and see if it solves your problem......
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