Helppppppppppp

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Originally Posted by mcrover

They offer a very good suggestion, BUY A DEFA Lol.

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Not everybody needs to tow 4 tons, cross deserts and climb mountains, they bought a vehicle that suits their needs. I wouldn't push them into buying a Defender, just as they couldn't push me into buying a Freelander. We should be here to help them, not rubbish their choice of vehicle :(

friends dont let friends buy freelanders

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Originally Posted by mcrover

No low range, very little ground clearance ...

If your talking top in it's class, what about the subi Forester, reliable, about an inch or so more clearence and has a resale value...

By the way, No low range means not a 4 wheel drive, means it's all wheel drive and that means built for hwy not for bush, this doesnt say you couldnt make it up the howqua track to frys hut or even to where Craigs once stood but we wouldnt bother taking one down to UJH as it would was down the river and wouldnt make the climb out.

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Much as it pains me to agree with mcrover...

if chosing between a Subaru Forester and a Freelander I'd take the Forester. Well, I did last time and I think I'd do it again.

But I do disagree (whew) on the "real" 4wd issue. The issue isn't low or high range - it's the combination of driven wheels, gearing, axle articulation, ground clearance and approach/departure/rampover angles. Ideally you want 4 wheels constantly being driven, low gearing, good articulation and as much ground clearance and angles as you can get.

The Forester has a good drive system. Freelander's isn't as impressive. Apart from that, neither was designed for off-roading. The Falcon ute with raised suspension and LSD is more capable off-road than either (or so I'm told). I've heard of a standard commodore ute making it up Cape York. The credentials of the Freelander, and Forester, have more to do with what an owner is prepared to do than design for the off-road environment.

I've had a Forester on Fraser - it did better than I thought but I wouldn't do it again without raising body and springs and fitting extra skid plates. For the cost of the mods I bought a Series Landie.

But who can cast the first stone over a car that costs too much money to keep on the road, that you pay out on because you love it despite its shortcomings, and that does everything you want it to?

Not me. I suspect not anyone here :D

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Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
How do these in any way help?

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they back up what I was once taught early on in my life from an engineer

Let Function dictate form.

If you do it the other way you'll spend forever patching it to make it do what its ment to do in the first place.

funny how the series, Stage 1, county, perentine and defender all do about the same thing and look about the same... yet the range rover, discovery, freelander, disco 2, freelander 2 and the vouge all look markedly different but still do about the same thing. Look impressive in carparks :P

which nicely highlghts the second collary of "let function dictate form"

which is

If it aint broke Dont fix it

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

they back up what I was once taught early on in my life from an engineer

Let Function dictate form.

If you do it the other way you'll spend forever patching it to make it do what its ment to do in the first place.

funny how the series, Stage 1, county, perentine and defender all do about the same thing and look about the same... yet the range rover, discovery, freelander, disco 2, freelander 2 and the vouge all look markedly different but still do about the same thing. Look impressive in carparks :P

which nicely highlghts the second collary of "let function dictate form"

which is

If it aint broke Dont fix it

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my question still stands,,,,

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

they back up what I was once taught early on in my life from an engineer

Let Function dictate form.

If you do it the other way you'll spend forever patching it to make it do what its ment to do in the first place.

funny how the series, Stage 1, county, perentine and defender all do about the same thing and look about the same... yet the range rover classic, discovery 1 Are almost as good as a fender off road but look better and, freelander, disco 2,Later model rangies, freelander 2 and the vouge all look markedly different but still do about the same thing. Look impressive in carparks :P

which nicely highlghts the second collary of "let function dictate form"

which is

If it aint broke Dont fix it

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Just thought id fix your post up there Dave, you left a few words out lol :o:o

I think the bottom line is keep the regular maintenance up and be prepared for some big outlays when they DO happen, not if. The freo could have been a great car but really you'd have to be nuts to buy one if you have any idea about vehicle mechanics. Hopefully Shellnstefget plenty of mileage out of theirs, you couldnt do better than take it to Justin Cooper LR to have it serviced/repaired from all accounts.

I had one with the 1.8 petrol motor I bought it with 40,000km and it ended with 180000km so in three years clocked 140 000km with the only problem being a plastic throttle body which was changed and no problems other then that and this thing was thrashed I owned it prior having my daughter and was immature enough to be a boy racer

Barley ever serviced

It went from NSW to WA to VIC 5 times and QLD once

So don’t worry till it poos it self then start to worry

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Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

my question still stands,,,,

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ummm

ever seen a freelander that AINT broke? :o

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Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

I had one with the 1.8 petrol motor I bought it with 40,000km and it ended with 180000km so in three years clocked 140 000km with the only problem being a plastic throttle body which was changed and no problems other then that and this thing was thrashed I owned it prior having my daughter and was immature enough to be a boy racer

Barley ever serviced

It went from NSW to WA to VIC 5 times and QLD once

So don’t worry till it poos it self then start to worry

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Good to see you grew up and so did your car :D

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Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

I had one with the 1.8 petrol motor I bought it with 40,000km and it ended with 180000km so in three years clocked 140 000km with the only problem being a plastic throttle body which was changed and no problems other then that and this thing was thrashed I owned it prior having my daughter and was immature enough to be a boy racer

Barley ever serviced

It went from NSW to WA to VIC 5 times and QLD once

So don’t worry till it poos it self then start to worry

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

ummm

ever seen a freelander that AINT broke? :o

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see above,,
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