So basically what were talking about is a modifacation that is basically lots of money for something that doesnt do anything much that is practical.
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So basically what were talking about is a modifacation that is basically lots of money for something that doesnt do anything much that is practical.
If that was the case we'd all leave or vehicles stock:p, its not for the tourer type, as it plays with all the suspension geometry, but greater articulation is of massive benefit in the harder stuff, without it, the vehicle either spins the wheels as soon as one is lifted of the ground (open diffs) or yaws over when in cross axle situations when it "falls over" onto other unweighted wheels, giving a very frightfull feeling at best, falling over at worst:o, you seem to be thinking of travel ramp situations where all that travel isn't really benificial, but an extra few inches(everyone wants an extra few:angel:) of travel is greatQuote:
Originally Posted by mcrover
cost me f all.Quote:
So basically what were talking about is a modifacation that is basically lots of money for something that doesnt do anything much that is practical.
i agree 100% with rovercare.
travell ramps are good for w#nk factor. yes it looks cool but the same vehicle on a ramp and in wombat holes are 2 totally differant things.
each to their own.
cheers phil
Long travel suspention as in with longer stroke shocks and softer longer springs for that extra few inches is of use for what your saying Matt but what were taking about is dislocating springs etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by rovercare
Other than maybe keeping the body in a more upright position it would do nothing else, as it cant IMO supply anymore traction and makes the vehical more likely to rollover on side slopes.
You are the first person to give an actual reason behind having extreme long travel suspention but it still doesnt explain the need for dislocating springs and the like.
By the way, most people drive around wombat holes, not try and drive through them just because you can, as much as I love 4wding, I dont see the point of some of the things that some people do.
ahh the dislocating springs thing...
thats simple your re-engineering of the suspension was not up to the standard required and you're exceeding the design limitations of your suspension..
My thoughts exactly lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Blknight.aus
How can you exceed the design limatations if you are re -engineering the suspension :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blknight.aus
And re-engineering does not stop with springs and shocks if done right:angel:
simple if your re-engineering it you got it wrong... if the spring disconnects from the axle or frame youve gone beyond the spring length thats bad.... the spring may not reseat properly, thats worse
now you might intentionally setup the articulation limits so that the axle hangs free from the spring but IMHO thats pointless with no spring pressure on it the axles just kinda hanging and dragging you down. and thats got the potential to put you in the position, as described earlier, of having the vehicle leaning over till the spring touches and with THAT much articulation you might just be in roll over/side slide territory.
now that might be contry to some of the things Ive said earlier but its a fine line Im talking about when I talk about articulation up to the right amout articulation is a good thing, then youve got that little bit of grey area thats outfreaking standing and then you get to just plain rediculous.
up to the point of out freaking standing IMHO dislocating the springs means your pushing too hard or havent built it right. After that to get that much travel per side you need to deliberately dislocate the springs to get the travel or get the worlds freakiest looking springs.
I belong firmly in the camp that suspension components are ment to be hooked up on both sides If they werent they wouldnt have connection points on both sides... IHMO Slunnies gone about as far as Id want to see it go on a rover of any type that wasnt specifically built to not get cross axled. any more and you compromise on road handling and stability too much.