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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushie View Post


    Its this one


    and thats me next to the rear wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushie View Post


    Its this one


    and thats me next to the rear wheel.


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    Having had quite a bit to do with pommie trucks of the 40's through early 70's, I can only imagine what a pig that was to drive. Pommie designers gave little though to drvier comfort or ergonomics or ventilation. Power steering was considered a luxury, after all, drivers were the servant class and paid to drive whatever was handed over to them. The infamous Daimler armoured car was a classic example. It was found at final design mock-up stage that the driver had been forgotten. The controls were designed and on the drawings but no space for the driver, resulting in a hurried redesign and moving things around to make a niggardley space for a driver.
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    (Quote) from a 95 defender owners manual im surprised no one has quoted the owners manual yet
    Use of transfer lever

    (Quote) 1

    CAUTION - Changing from High (HI) to (LO) should only be attempted when the vehicle is stationary


    (Quote) 2

    Changes from low (L) to high (H) can easily be made as follows with out stopping the vehicle
    Depress the clutch pedal and release the accelerator pedal as for a normal gearchange .
    Move the transfer lever into neutral .
    Release the clutch pedal for 3 seconds .
    Depress the clutch pedal and move transfer lever FIRMLY to high (H) position .
    Then move the main lever to second gear and release the clutch pedal while deppressing the accelerator to take up the drive smoothly .
    As the vehicle accelerates , change gear in the main gearbox in the normal way .
    This operation can be carried out smoothly and quickly after a little PRACTICE . Proper use of the gearbox range will ensure optimun efficiency and transmission component life
    Last edited by rangieman; 13th September 2007 at 10:53 AM.

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    I reckon some of them army guys must be nuffies to stuff this very simple exercise up . God and we trust these guys to protect us

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler View Post
    "Use of gear ranges [SNIP]
    From page 22 of the "Land-Rover V8" owner's manual.
    Quote Originally Posted by rangieman View Post
    (Quote) from a 95 defender owners manual im surprised no one has quoted the owners manual yet
    Use of transfer lever ...
    Ahem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler View Post
    "Use of gear ranges11. If the vehicle is heavily laden or towing a heavy trailer and is required to pull away from a standing start up a steep gradient, select Low in the transfer case and first gear in the main gearbox. When the road conditions are suitable, the transfer gear may be changed to High without stopping the vehicle as follows:

    Depress the clutch pedal and release the accelerator. Move the transfer gear lever to the neutral position. Release the clutch momentarily. Depress the clutch and move the Transfer lever to 'high' position. Release the clutch and continue to accelerate the vehicle normally. Should the main gear selected be too high it will only be necessary to select a lower gear in the main gearbox in the normal way.

    This operation can be carried out smoothly and quickly after a little practice."

    From page 22 of the "Land-Rover V8" owner's manual.
    the new version has you go nuetral on both shifters (main and transfer) then select the transfer then select the main transmission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    the new version has you go nuetral on both shifters (main and transfer) then select the transfer then select the main transmission.
    Always a doubter read and weep baby

    And thats how i change from low to hi on the move
    Last edited by rangieman; 13th September 2007 at 04:07 PM.

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    when i changed as the book said
    Depress the clutch pedal and release the accelerator pedal as for a normal gearchange .
    Move the transfer lever into neutral .
    Release the clutch pedal for 3 seconds .
    Depress the clutch pedal and move transfer lever FIRMLY to high (H) position .

    I got a helva lot of clunk.
    But now i do it as Blknight.aus advised

    Stop the vehicle (dont apply the handbrake, heel/toe the brakes and accelerator if you must later)
    depress the clutch to the foot well
    select nuetral on the Tcase
    select the required range on the tcase
    maintain effort on the lever from this point on
    ease up on the clutch to the friction point
    depress the clutch
    release the brakes
    ease up on the clutch
    apply light acceleration
    back off the accelerator (dont just drop your foot off though)
    take your hand off the tcase lever

    and find it much much better. thanks for the info Blknight
    Regards Adrian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushie View Post
    I think that is the critical statement in all of this, I occasionally shift on the fly only from low to high and only at low speed ~15km/h i suppose.

    As others have said though, it helps if you have learnt that way.

    I cut my driving teeth on series landys, then old blitz' and studebakers (with the round the corner shift ). Going from high to low isn't that hard if you know how AND the vehicle needs to make the change, I used to have to do it in an old thorneycroft nubian 6x6 (remember that one Numpty).

    Having said all that if you stuff it up big time then its likely to be very expensive.

    Martyn
    x2 all of the above.

    I learned in more modern trucks with Roadrangers, easy peasy. Then I spent many years with little Suzukis where low range is just another gear to be used regularly. I can double a zook box down to low at 40k, they are very easy, I suspect it's the bigger cut gears.

    Having said that I do find the D1 is not as easy, partly I think the gears are probabaly closer cut, plus a low compression engine on LPG is not as crisp or responsive to throttle inputs as one would like.
    I still shift up on the fly, but only at jogging pace, and I've never found the need to double it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    Having had quite a bit to do with pommie trucks of the 40's through early 70's, I can only imagine what a pig that was to drive. Pommie designers gave little though to drvier comfort or ergonomics or ventilation. Power steering was considered a luxury, after all, drivers were the servant class and paid to drive whatever was handed over to them. The infamous Daimler armoured car was a classic example. It was found at final design mock-up stage that the driver had been forgotten. The controls were designed and on the drawings but no space for the driver, resulting in a hurried redesign and moving things around to make a niggardley space for a driver.
    Actually it wasn't too bad once you got into the swing of it.

    My last drive in it was from Heathcote (NSW) to Yamba in 1993.

    Its the truck Numpty got his licence in, on a stinking hot day, the examiner reckoned if he could stand the heat (doors were closed) he deserved a licence.


    Martyn

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