Thread: In the sump today TD5

Originally Posted by furianer

some of you might remember the trouble i had with a TD5 engine dropping bits and pieces of metal into the sump.

One of the bigger parts was a trust bearing, the thing was wearing a grove into the crank, once the grove got to deep the bearing dropped in to the sump.

Fixing the damage properly would have involved replacing the crank plus some other bits.

As the car is used as my everyday workhorse a other solution had to be found, a cheap fix.
So after towing trailers and doing all sorts of trips with it 15.000km all up, the td5 is still going strong.

This is what is holding the crank in place a little custom part made out of bronze, it fits the grove in the crank and replaces the missing trust washer

Richard

The thrust washer was wearing the crank

I don't think your troubles are over just yet somehow

ithink i for one would have been pulling the motor out and fixing it in the correct manner.
there is no telling what other damage will be caused if the thing lets go!

Originally Posted by 100I

The thrust washer was wearing the crank

I don't think your troubles are over just yet somehow

Troubles are never over in a rover I trust my trust bearing, sure better then what the british put there to hold the crank in place.

keep my fingers crossed

Richard

Originally Posted by Outback 1

ithink i for one would have been pulling the motor out and fixing it in the correct manner.
there is no telling what other damage will be caused if the thing lets go!

Thanks i know, i should have, but i thought i give it a try, the crank is stuffed any way, but it runs ok. no metal shavings in sump oil.


The reason for the trust washer to eat the crank in the first place was, a stuffed clutch, all moving parts of the clutch and dual mass flywheel where almost sized up, pushing the clutch pedal called for some really heavy boot. The previous owner just put up with it for ages.

And this is where the next bit of bush repair comes in i cut a hole into the bell housing and sprayed the internals with heaps of penetrating oil, 15.000km down the track it is still fine. No squeals or rattels

so make sure your td5 clutch is operating properly, might just save you a trust bearing

Richard

Originally Posted by furianer

Thanks i know, i should have, but i thought i give it a try, the crank is stuffed any way, but it runs ok. no metal shavings in sump oil.


The reason for the trust washer to eat the crank in the first place was, a stuffed clutch, all moving parts of the clutch and dual mass flywheel where almost sized up, pushing the clutch pedal called for some really heavy boot. The previous owner just put up with it for ages.

And this is where the next bit of bush repair comes in i cut a hole into the bell housing and sprayed the internals with heaps of penetrating oil, 15.000km down the track it is still fine. No squeals or rattels

so make sure your td5 clutch is operating properly, might just save you a trust bearing

Richard

Ah that's logical. That was the point I was making really, is that things don't go pop for no reason, sounds like you're confident in your workaround tho.
No metal, as in particles on the bottom? You probably already know your bushing material will tend float on top somewhat and if you put it out in sunlight your oil will be nice and glittery (no disco jokes).
Was there wear on the journal? I don't think the thrust washer ate the crank, I'd think that once the thrust washer wore to a sliver & fell out the crank was then thrusting against the journal itself.