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Gumby
When I talk about 4 point - I am referring to 4 points of restraint on the body. i.e. both hips and both shoulders. A 5 point restraint being the 4 points mentioned above and an extra below the seat between the legs.
It seems that there are different descriptions that refer to the number of points of anchorage and many are designed to fit through holes in a racing seat back above each shoulder. If one of these 4 anchorage point harnesses is used without the appropriate type of seat and has the rear two points too far apart there is a risk of the shoulders slipping between the shoulder straps. So be careful.
There are also harnesses which restrain 4 points of the body by 3 points on the car. This one is ADR approved 3 Point Racing Harness Seat Belt - Blue MONZA - ADR App - eBay In-Car Accessories, Interior Accessories, Car Accessories, Tuning, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 24-Jan-08 20:39:58 AEDST)
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Diana
Last edited by Lotz-A-Landies; 17th January 2008 at 11:15 PM.
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I had one like this on a bush basher I used to own back in the day, it had a bridging strap that clipped together halfway up the straps in the middle of your chest, if I was going to get a harness I would try & find another like it, saved me a world of pain a few times. The rollbar I have just put in has a seatbelt mount point for the conventional style of retractable belts.
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Very sensible!Originally Posted by gumby190
You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.
RoverLord
An unrated seat belt may be perfectly safe. The problem is that you don't know. Also, probably illegal - while seat belts may not be required legally on many Series Landrovers, if fitted, I believe they must be approved types - unless they were fitted before approval was required, which could be the case for most Series 2/2a and all Series 1.
John
John
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1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
RoverLord
Just as an aside, I have had (three point) seat belts in all the cars I have ever owned, back to 1961. Those planning absolute authenticity in Landrovers 2a and earlier that are not required legally to have seat belts by not fitting belts, should bear in mind that the really big improvement in road safety in the 1970s was the introduction of compulsory seat belt wearing. No other change in vehicle design has come even close to making as big an improvement to road safety, the only change coming close has been random breath testing.
Also, remember that the effectiveness of seat belts in saving lives was first established in the fifties by the Snowy Mountains Authority - mostly in Series 1 Landrovers!
John
John
JDNSW
1986 110 County 3.9 diesel
1970 2a 109 2.25 petrol
Fossicker
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ChatterBox
I guess I'll have a go on the weekend!Me male...need picture...talk no good...please...
Cripes . . . another bloody thing to sign up on and remember a password for!!!Read here Photobucket - How to Use
Oh well, for the good of the Land-Rover community . . .
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John
On a personal note, if I were asked to judge a series 1 or series 2/2a at any show and shine type event. I would never mark down a modification for safety reasons in a road registered car.
For other than vehicles currently under restoration, If it's not road registered what is the point of having it at a show, even on farm vehicles should probably have belts if any 4X4 is involved.
Diana
You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.
Wizard
For a 'quick and dirty' photo post you can use Imagevenue - ImageVenue.com - Image Hosting and Image UploadCripes . . . another bloody thing to sign up on and remember a password for!!!
Oh well, for the good of the Land-Rover community . . .
- no accounts, signup or login needed, just select the photos for upload, indicate if they are 'not suitable for work', and press send. Wait for the upload to finish and you get a screen of code to cut and paste into a forum post. The code is thumbnails for all the images you uploaded.
The drawback is you can never find the photos again unless you save a copy of the code somewhere and there may be ads unsuitable for children displayed when people click on the thumbnails. (I use an add blocker so I don't actually know what's there.)
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