Poly bushes don't flex, do they..

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

You shouldn't need to grease the radius arm bushes.

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I greased every metal to poly surface :D
Used a calcium sulfonate marine grease to resist washout and corrosion rather than the SP stuff (which could be really good stuff but :confused:)

I think the flex in the front is now attributable to the pin end of the radius arms rotating in their mounts relative to the chassis rather than have the diff end deform the bush relative to the axle tubes (which they can't now)
This is why I used copious amounts of grease when assembling.
It was obvious that the OE rubber bushes (which were only 18 months old) were 'welded' to the pin and chassis 'cups', and I used a rubber grease when assembling.

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Originally Posted by rick130

... They have been there for well over 100,000km and are a superior design to OE, allowing more articulation with less bump steer.SP

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From my understanding of link geometry, I don't see how the material of the trailing arm bushes would reduce bump steer with increased articulation.

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Originally Posted by Bush65

From my understanding of link geometry, I don't see how the material of the trailing arm bushes would reduce bump steer with increased articulation.

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the OE rubber bushes had taken a set/compressed allowing play between the chassis plate and bush. I was getting a fair bit of rear steer.
I have no idea what the durometer is comparing one to the other, but tahe SP ones have a reasonably deep circumferential groove which allows the bush to distort up and down and the roll/bump/brake rear steer was dramatically reduced.
They also use heavier gauge steel plates compared to the OE ones.

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Originally Posted by dullbird

in the uk it was the red poly bushes that where renowned for cracking the chassi as they were to heavy duty and had no give in them the blues where the recomended for off road as they gave and allowed for flex......

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I think the blue ones are Britpart, whereas the orange and yellow are Deflex with one colour being harder than the other. Was going to look at all three types and then buy the set closest to standard rubber at Paddocks while in the UK last week, but bloody traffic on the M1 on my only spare day put a stop to that. :mad:

Had to make do with spending half as much at MM4x4 instead, as they were open later but didn't have as much of the stuff on my list. :(

I picked up my bushes today and I thought I'd do the panhard rod this afternoon.
I managed to get one of the rubber bushes out easy enough but what is the trick to getting the poly bush in?

It looks like it should go in easy enough but since the sides are flat and not slightly angled the bush just distorts. One side will slip in but not the other so just distorts and won't go in. I can certainly vouch for the softness of the bush not hard poly at all!

Any help from those that have done this already?

Dishwashing liquid I used to use that all the time




These are the set I will be getting from paddocks when I get to the UK
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

They are the Deflex brand about $90 for the set


Adam

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Originally Posted by agrojnr

Dishwashing liquid I used to use that all the time




These are the set I will be getting from paddocks when I get to the UK
http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/SHOP...lr02pwa-95.jpg

They are the Deflex brand about $90 for the set


Adam

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$90dollars AU or do u mean $90pound :D:D:D

I have the same bushes, they where aprox $180 a set (including swaybar bushes) landed in perth. Paddock are crap to deal with but there prices are good. A week to reply to an email is std. Im happy with the quality and softness of the bushes....just havent got around to fitting them yet........:angel:

Paddocks price is 48.35 pounds so around $90

I have had no troble in dealing with paddocks but then again I have always rang them when placing an order


Adam

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Originally Posted by Lucus

I have the same bushes, they where aprox $180 a set (including swaybar bushes) landed in perth. Paddock are crap to deal with but there prices are good. A week to reply to an email is std. Im happy with the quality and softness of the bushes....just havent got around to fitting them yet........:angel:

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I looked at those but chose the local ones for ease of use. Cost a bit more though. The Paddocks are a two peice design whereas the SuperPro ones are one peice (both with seperate crush tubes). Don't know which is better for what purpose.

I've ordered once from Paddocks and had no trouble with them but they can be a little slow on the email and their website sucks unless you search for part numbers then it is not too bad.

I'll try a little dishwashing liquid just to get it started. It is like pushing a square piece of jelly into a round hole at the moment. At this rate I'll be driving the Toyota to work :(