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It's a general statement for all tyres. "Typical chipping" also happened to a set of BFG's the first time I crossed the Simmo in 02. Unfortunately, I found BFG's couldn't take low PSI like the Coopers for sand use. I rolled two off their rims.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJon
I ran a set of 235/85/16 ST's on my RRC for over 100,000k's and was very impressed with their off road ability. I did lose some partial side lugs earlier on, but this was through not airing down on steep, shaley surfaces causing excess wheel spin. On the same surfaces my mate running BFG MT's also lost lugs due to not airing down, so it is not necessarily just one brand of tyre. My only disappointment with the ST's was wet bitumen handling - or lack there of. I have just recently purchased a set of STT's for my D1 and am so far impressed with how they handle. They also cope a lot better with wet bitumen than the ST's seemed to.
2 sets of silverstones, never chipped!Quote:
Originally Posted by jmkoffice
parents put 5 brand new coopers, AT's on there 100 series, they got to cairns (left from rockhampton) on their way to the cape and did both rears! on tar! with coopers recomender pressures, again top came off like a re tread! yeah! top quality tyres them coopers!
i told you so came up alot!
mark, just go 285 75 R16 you have a CHOICE then!
cheers phil
I agree. I have never seen any brand of tyre chip like Coopers do. I have first hand experience with BF Goodrich, Toyo, Michelin, and many others, but I have never had chipping the likes of which I have seen on Cooper tyres over and over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by discowhite
Fair enough. Maybe that's why they brought out the ST-C, marketed as more chip tolerant. Has anyone tried these?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJon
That might help with that one tread pattern, but what about the ATRs and STTs that chip badly as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by jmkoffice
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Originally Posted by Redback
Yes i've tried them, 20,000ks they lasted, but they were knacked at 10,000ks really, Coopers just didn't want to change them under warrenty untill we realy insisted.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmkoffice
Baz.
I've been following this and other similar threads since I first heard of a few delaminations with STs with, I'll admit, a degree of nervousness mixed with "you only hear bad stories so don't panic". However, Mike's post which mentioned cracks made me check mine this evening. Now I'm not sure what's "normal" but I'm a bit concerned with what I found. These tyres have done two mainland trips (totalling about 15000 kms) and about another 10-15000 on bitumen. The chipping doesn't seem to me to be too bad (considering the tracks we went on) but there does seem to be an alarming degree of cracking at the base of just about all the outside lugs, especially on the rear tyres - so now I'm wondering if these are something to be concerned about. There are also a few cracks in between a few lugs. I've tried to take a couple of pics but not sure how clear they will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by tombraider
Anyone any suggestions on the best way to get some independent advice?
cheers, Andy
StevoQuote:
Originally Posted by Stevo_62
This is likely because of sand in the bead. I had this problem with my BFG Ats. Just get them reseated and cleaned.
Angus
I think tyres a a personal choice and most of us stick to what has worked, but sometimes you just gotta try and see. But I have never heard of any other apparently reputable tyre manufacturer having so many problems as Cooper. And not just premature wear and chipping, but actual major delaminations!
I also just dont understand how they can manage to charge what they do for their tyres! I priced them when looking for muddies and the STTs and ridiculously prices compared to nearly everything else! Personally I wouldnt pay the money they ask for tyres that have a dubious reliability record.
But then again...plenty of people use them without a hassle! I just think that if you go with Coopers fair enough...but just dont whinge when they bust!! :o:D
If you want reliable tyres stick with GY silent armour, Wranglers, BFG muddies, pirelli At's, MTZ's and MTx's.
My 2 cents worth.
Angus