WINCH ROPE LENGTH for comps

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Originally Posted by Panda

As much as you can get on, we'v just mod'd 2 high mounts , extended

winch drum, breathers 6HP motors rear braces should be able to get over

2 hundred meters on do a google for warn high mout mods there are a lot

of very good uk sites

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Originally Posted by DaveS3

You can fit it but if you do any winching at angle it bunches at the sides and without brace bars at the back the cable wraps around the housing.

You just end up with a giant birds nest :D

Dave.

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Dave even with a standered drum length any acute angle pulls will bunch

the cable at the side ,one of the beifits of the extra cable is you can run

several pullys (when not in comps) to control your cable direction and

when you are there 99% stright line pulls any way an twin 6's will have

you running to keep up

Of course it will bunch up but you get into trouble if you run too much cable for a certain drum diameter and width - all I am saying as that you get yourself into more trouble by running too much cable if you haven't decreased the drum diameter or widened it.

PS 200 meters? Are you serious?

I have had to do a 50 metre single pull on a WWII Blitz truck stuck to the axle in mud (12.00x20 tyres) and my winch was on the overload clutch. I would have preferred to have had 100 metres and done it double line pull. 200 metres is a luxury that I would love, but can't afford at this stage. Another trick is to go down a size of cable. The tensile rating of the cable is usually far above what the winch is capable of pulling.
Aaron.

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Originally Posted by DaveS3

PS 200 meters? Are you serious?

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No Dave I reckon it will be very close ....Plasama rope is a beautiful thing

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Originally Posted by Aaron IIA

I have had to do a 50 metre single pull on a WWII Blitz truck stuck to the axle in mud (12.00x20 tyres) and my winch was on the overload clutch. I would have preferred to have had 100 metres and done it double line pull. 200 metres is a luxury that I would love, but can't afford at this stage. Another trick is to go down a size of cable. The tensile rating of the cable is usually far above what the winch is capable of pulling.
Aaron.

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Aaron, while I aggree with cable strength being grater than winch capacity I would never go down a size in steal cable, because of the recovery load could then exceed the cable breaking point rather I would go the plasma rope you can get a hell of a lot more on the drum and its breaking point is much higher than cable...

Just reading the above and a lot has to be said for a standard fitting Landrover winch used on the 101 Landy.
It is a Nokken and uses a very narrow drum only a few inches wide and 65 mtrs of 9 mm cable.
As the winch is under the vehicle it is self laying and the drum is only used for storage of the cable as the pulling is done by a three turn capstan which allways has a constant pull regardless of how much cable is out.
I find with mine you can leave the winch running , say winching out and the cable willnot feed out untill you actually pull in the cable and it is a similar story winching in.
This means you can walk out with the cable to the other vehicle or anchor point and the cable will stop feeding out when you get there and will not birds nest.
Being a PTO winch the winching in speeds can be far above any electric winch if you want it to be.
I found these two sites.
Army Forward Control Nokken Winch
Winches

i used to carry 100 foot (about 33m) on my winch challenge 90 . This was on warn High mounts
Main reason was that you did not really need the max of 150 foot all the time and when you did i used to carry a 25m extention winch strap so that would sort out any problems. I did loads and loads of events where i won or did very well , so never harmed me only having 100 foot

The other problem is more rope/wire you put on the weeker/slower your winch becomes . So i would never put massive and ,massive amouts of rope/wire on a winch. just carrry a winch extention strap

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Originally Posted by Bush65

Sorry, I don't have a contact number for Wayne Smith.

Here is a link to the current gigglepin 2 motor conversion Gigglepin 4X4

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Give Jim a call he will help you out . really really nioce bloke. Competed with him many times before i came out here to aus. Know his stuff and boy can he drive :)


But i will tell you know that Jim does not run huge and huge amouts of rope on his winch same reason that i don't . He has the twin motors for speed and power, not holding huge amouts of rope

if you want to Ask Jim a question and don't want to phone him
then go to this forum LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum (Powered by Invision Power Board)

jim is on there all the time as D90SV
Here is his user page But can't see this unless loged on Board Message

But you will be able to talk to him on here as he will tell you what you need to know , as i said he is a really nice chap

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Originally Posted by Panda

Aaron, while I aggree with cable strength being grater than winch capacity I would never go down a size in steal cable, because of the recovery load could then exceed the cable breaking point rather I would go the plasma rope you can get a hell of a lot more on the drum and its breaking point is much higher than cable...

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My wire rope is 7/16" in diameter. What would be an approximate SWL and WLL for this cable?
Aaron.

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Originally Posted by Reads90

if you want to Ask Jim a question and don't want to phone him
then go to this forum LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum (Powered by Invision Power Board)

jim is on there all the time as D90SV
Here is his user page But can't see this unless loged on Board Message

But you will be able to talk to him on here as he will tell you what you need to know , as i said he is a really nice chap

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Just to add to that, I found he was away a fair bit during a period when we were discussing a number of matters and he was not able to reply promptly (sometimes about a week). It may just have been a bad time.