Thread: spring retainers vs dislocation cones

IME (and IMHO) retained is preferable, as it will give you more predictable handling, without the lurching and clunking when springs dis- and re- locate.

Dislocating setups may look cool on a ramp, but don't give you much more in usable travel IMHO.

Put longer softer springs in to get the same ride height and more down travel, otherwise the cost and effort of the longer shocks is a waste.

Tony

Yes the springs will stretch when retained,more so in a cross axle situation
than say the vehicle supported on a two post hoist.Eric.

Originally Posted by TonyC

Put longer softer springs in to get the same ride height and more down travel

I considered softer springs as well but I tow a trailer and like the ride characteristics of the current springs when loaded and cornering at speed (no death defying lean)

thanks

Retaining the rear will also force the front suspension to work.

I did a test on my old coiled rear and SUA'd front 100" Landy IIa ute. With the rear unretained I could lift a rear wheel only about 20cm before a spring dislocated and the front did absolutely nothing. Sadly I didn't take pics.

This is what it did after I strapped the rear to retain it.

IME (and IMHO) dislocated works just as well!
for my setup i couldnt get the height and rate for the rear coils i wanted with out coil bind to go retained, so i went for the ''****'' factor that seams to work really well in my rig, but not that i know anything i do all my wheeling on the web

cheers phil

Originally Posted by discowhite

IME (and IMHO) dislocated works just as well!
for my setup i couldnt get the height and rate for the rear coils i wanted with out coil bind to go retained, so i went for the ''****'' factor that seams to work really well in my rig, but not that i know anything i do all my wheeling on the web

cheers phil

I think also that weight and suspension balance (increasing bind) will have a lot to do with it. On my IIa, being unretained did not work in the slightest, but there was a significant weight imbalance between the front and the rear. You jigger may work well unretained because the weight distribution is better than what I had.

I had dislocating springs on the last Rangie but will go retained on "Dancing Hippo". I never had a problem with traction when dislocating but there are 2 problems:
1. They are very noisy with lots of "clanging"
2. They can easily and very quickly upset the balance of the car when you are on very hairy angles.