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    What the *!?!!*

    OK, is it just me or is there just NO ROOM to put a oil filter tensioner on the oil filter for the TD5's!!??

    I wanted to do a simple fuel filter and oil and oil filter change today. Figure about an hour for the lot, maybe 2.

    Fist thing that went wrong was that the universal CAV style filter and housing from Ryco has smaller female fittings so all the hoses wont screw in! Could have sworn that the R2132UA had been used by others here. Also notice that the little arrows on the R2132UA indicating fuel flow are the opposite to the ones on the original? What the?

    So I put everything back together and think OK, I'll do the oil and filter which must be a no-brainer. I notice that the filter is tucked in behind the turbo but I can just manage to get my hand in there without taking off the heatshield to unscrew it. The thing is as loose as! Check the oil level...what level! It doesn't even register on the stick!

    Drain the oil, about 4 liters maybe a bit more. Wonder why the oil indicater light hasn't been flashing since it works when starting the car. Anyway, try to put the filter on but now can't get it right so i have to take the heatshield off anyway. (Footnote, one of the heatshield bolts is in a really dumb place facing right in towards the firewall).

    Finally get the filter screwed on but there is just no room to get one of those tensioners underneath and onto the filter. Now I know why the previous filter was so loose!

    Anyone have a fix for this? Are there tensioners/looseners out there that only use a thin strap?

    So much for my lazy Sunday!

    Cheers, Pete'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier1 View Post
    OK, is it just me or is there just NO ROOM to put a oil filter tensioner on the oil filter for the TD5's!!??

    I wanted to do a simple fuel filter and oil and oil filter change today. Figure about an hour for the lot, maybe 2.

    Fist thing that went wrong was that the universal CAV style filter and housing from Ryco has smaller female fittings so all the hoses wont screw in! Could have sworn that the R2132UA had been used by others here. Also notice that the little arrows on the R2132UA indicating fuel flow are the opposite to the ones on the original? What the?

    So I put everything back together and think OK, I'll do the oil and filter which must be a no-brainer. I notice that the filter is tucked in behind the turbo but I can just manage to get my hand in there without taking off the heatshield to unscrew it. The thing is as loose as! Check the oil level...what level! It doesn't even register on the stick!

    Drain the oil, about 4 liters maybe a bit more. Wonder why the oil indicater light hasn't been flashing since it works when starting the car. Anyway, try to put the filter on but now can't get it right so i have to take the heatshield off anyway. (Footnote, one of the heatshield bolts is in a really dumb place facing right in towards the firewall).

    Finally get the filter screwed on but there is just no room to get one of those tensioners underneath and onto the filter. Now I know why the previous filter was so loose!

    Anyone have a fix for this? Are there tensioners/looseners out there that only use a thin strap?

    So much for my lazy Sunday!

    Cheers, Pete'
    It's has always been my understanding that oil filters should only be fitted hand tight..............

    ...............but it's always bloody odd that they are never hand tight when you want to take them off

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladas View Post
    It's has always been my understanding that oil filters should only be fitted hand tight..............

    ...............but it's always bloody odd that they are never hand tight when you want to take them off
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    Dont forget to put a small smear of oil around the oil seal on the filter

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    C'mon mate

    If I can get my big hands and arms into there and unscrew and re-fit the filter by hand around a 3" Dump pipe, remote shock canister, battery tray, etc... without removing the heat shield, then anyone can...

    And yes, oil the seal on the new filter, spin it on till it stops then 'nip' it up by hand 1/4-1/2 turn. No need to go tighter.

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    yep, hand tight and get your right hand in behind the pipe from the RHS, I find a 300mm pair of LOCKING multi grips the easiest way of starting the undoing process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crump View Post
    yep, hand tight and get your right hand in behind the pipe from the RHS, I find a 300mm pair of LOCKING multi grips the easiest way of starting the undoing process.
    easiest way is to wrap a piece of rope with a slip knot around the filter in the rotation you are turning it, then unscrew it by pulling on the rope.

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    They're always harder to unscrew because the seal swells with exposure to oil by design.

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    Yup, they are in a difficult place, and yes they DO come loose unless you fairly swing off them to tighten them up. Both hands, one behind the turbo and one from the side.
    Dobbos idea of a slipknot to provide grip is a good un, but they are, as you found out, sometimes loose anyway
    I've found that the worst is a D2 with the aux battery tray in the way! you can only get one hand in there

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    I just changed the filter on the step daughters camry yesterday shocking position , it was so tight that i used a leather belt around it , carefull tho your pants might fall down

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangieman View Post
    I just changed the filter on the step daughters camry yesterday shocking position , it was so tight that i used a leather belt around it , carefull tho your pants might fall down
    A 4cyl camry? Didn't you LOVE the way the oil runs straight down onto the exhaust front pipe and settles inside the heat sheild??

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    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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