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    Best way to change a firewall on defender

    So can anyone elaborate on this

    as some of you are aware we need to change the firewall on the 90 due to some significant corrosion....

    now i have been told by 2 landrover mechanics that is much quicker to lift the body off!

    and looking at it Ian is not sure how it makes it quicker and easier than just taking wings,doors roof and windscreen off

    has anyone done this got pics or some advice of things to watch out for....
    what we really should and shouldn't do

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    How bad is the rust?.Changing the firewall is probably the most labour intesive job you could do on a LR.It would have to be held together by the paint before I would change it.I have done it once on a 2a and would not do it again,you can buy all the parts you need for rust repair. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    How bad is the rust?.Changing the firewall is probably the most labour intesive job you could do on a LR.It would have to be held together by the paint before I would change it.I have done it once on a 2a and would not do it again,you can buy all the parts you need for rust repair. Pat
    i already have the firewall waiting to go in

    the only part we have seen so far(yet to pull the rest of the dash) you can post all finger on one hand and still have room around your hand...it needs doing because its only going to get worse.

    and we dont want to be pulling the car apart again in a few years time just becasue we only patched it this time.

    the car as come from the uk so things are rotting pretty bad
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    Ive seen a county one out in a guy I knows workshop but I havnt done one my self.

    The guy who did that pulled the engine and all the front panels and windscreen off and I helped him lift it out with the dash attached.

    It did look to be a relatively big job but I wouldnt even attempt it with the engine in, box wasnt a problem as he took the floor out before hand as well.

    Big big job though.

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    As has been said its a very big and time consumeing job Lue, not something you can do over a weekend (unless you start Friday night and work till its done)

    best way is front end off doors off unbolt roof leave on engine out (you can leave the G/box in your choice) lift the firewall off with the dash untouched an engine side un touched swop everthing over onto the new firewall slot everything back in

    not an easy job...

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    essentially

    remove roof
    remove windshield
    unbolt wings and floor (you may need to remove the radiator bulkhead to achieve this but you don't in a series or a county thats sans aircon)
    remove steering box + column
    unmount brake + clutch towers
    remove accelerator linkages
    remove transmission covers and floor plates
    unhose the heater box and aircon if fitted (you can do it without doing this but you have fun with that)
    seperate electrical harness
    unbolt firewall
    remove firewall
    remove fruit from firewall

    to assemble read that list backwards and replace remove with install and unmount with mount.

    same same on all the shed class rovers.
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    When I took mine apart I did basically this

    1. remove front and rear doors and bonnet
    2. remove roof, side panels and windscreen frame in 1 piece (heavy)
    3. remove front panel and front wings
    4. remove floor adn tunnel
    5. Disconnect everything. I kept mine in the largest sub assemblies possible, leaving everything I could on the firewall for example.
    6. lift off firewall (heavy)

    Is the firewall you have built up or do you need to build it from the parts on your current one?

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    better buy some outriggers and anything else thats used to attach the bulkhead to the chassis. might as well add the door posts also, cos the bolts in them are rooted too.

    its not as simple as just replacing the bulkhead, fair enough on a newish one its maybe more straight forward, but ian's one will have a large can of worms inside. half of the uk is in the chassis its what you cant see that will cost the most.

    if it were me ide wait till the rego's just been paid then take it apart, that way ian dont have to worrie about de registering it and he will have the maximum time to do the job.

    cheers phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by discowhite View Post
    better buy some outriggers and anything else thats used to attach the bulkhead to the chassis. might as well add the door posts also, cos the bolts in them are rooted too.

    its not as simple as just replacing the bulkhead, fair enough on a newish one its maybe more straight forward, but ian's one will have a large can of worms inside. half of the uk is in the chassis its what you cant see that will cost the most.

    if it were me ide wait till the rego's just been paid then take it apart, that way ian dont have to worrie about de registering it and he will have the maximum time to do the job.
    cheers phil
    90 nis only 2 months into its rego, thats why we want to get it done now...as that was always our plan to gt it registered and have a year to get everything done...but its been kind of forced on us really as this was next years plan.
    but the engine going and the heater matrix going (which is how we found the rot which we suspected was there) it just needs to be done

    As has been said its a very big and time consumeing job Lue, not something you can do over a weekend (unless you start Friday night and work till its done)
    can appreicate that tony didn't think we would could do it in a weekend. especially as we have never done anything like this before, when you have no experience things take even longer.

    Is the firewall you have built up or do you need to build it from the parts on your current one?

    no unfortunatly for us we have to move everything over only have the bare bones firwall to replace it with
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