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    Now this has almost no bearing on the thread, but in my extensive experience of pram tyres I've seen several tubes ripped to shreds by rubbing on the tyre.

    For the past three and a half years I've had one of those twin prams with the pneumatic tyres. They run at 20psi. I do overload the pram, often by ten or fifteen kgs above the maximum recommended by the manufacturer, and I've been known to take corners at higher than sensible speed, although I've not yet rolled a tyre off the rim.

    I think I've worn out six or eight tubes in that time, all from being rubbed through on the tyre, on opening it up the tyre is filled with rubber rubble, the tube is rough - more or less consistently worn around the whole tube, and at one point it has worn through.

    Now, on with the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Again, your fighting your own battle here.....
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    Whatever.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by abaddonxi View Post
    Now this has almost no bearing on the thread, but in my extensive experience of pram tyres I've seen several tubes ripped to shreds by rubbing on the tyre.

    For the past three and a half years I've had one of those twin prams with the pneumatic tyres. They run at 20psi. I do overload the pram, often by ten or fifteen kgs above the maximum recommended by the manufacturer, and I've been known to take corners at higher than sensible speed, although I've not yet rolled a tyre off the rim.

    I think I've worn out six or eight tubes in that time, all from being rubbed through on the tyre, on opening it up the tyre is filled with rubber rubble, the tube is rough - more or less consistently worn around the whole tube, and at one point it has worn through.

    Now, on with the show.

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    entirely relevant methinks

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    Each to his own.I have had two blowouts on tubes and one in my misses VW Polo on tubeless tyres and the tubed tyres went flat straightaway throwing me off the road and the tubeless,even though it had an radio aerial go through the tread and out the sidewall making two holes didn't.If you like tubes go for it,but don't say that tubeless are no good on tubed rims as I,like many others run them them with total reliability. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    Each to his own.I have had two blowouts on tubes and one in my misses VW Polo on tubeless tyres and the tubed tyres went flat straightaway throwing me off the road and the tubeless,even though it had an radio aerial go through the tread and out the sidewall making two holes didn't.If you like tubes go for it,but don't say that tubeless are no good on tubed rims as I,like many others run them them with total reliability. Pat
    I will say as I think that your being irresponsible and dangerous by doing it and so does the governing bodies all around Australia and the world.

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    OK I want you to explain without doubt why.As has been said,why would a tubed tyre stay on the bead and a tubeless wouldn't if both were on tubed style rims?.No BS just state facts. Pat

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    dont put tubes in tubless tyres,
    dont take the tubes out of tubed tyres
    dont run the tubless tyres on a rim intended for tubed tyres
    dont run tubes on rims designed to be tubless.
    dont put tubes in tyres with runflats
    dont put runflats in tube tyres.

    failure to adhere to these warnings will cause

    uneven tyre wear, tyre overheating, instant tyre explosions, steering misalignment, chassis warping, rust, electrical problems, windows cracking, seat bases collapsing, jack failure, siezed wheel nuts, uneven tyre pressures, extended braking distances, heart failure, near sighted ness, palpatations, The ability to drive like the stig, increased fuel consumption, loss of the benifits of the hiclone if fitted, turbo bearing seal failure, warped manifolds, spat timing belts, pinging, automatic transmission overheat, clutch judder, The desire to own a toyota, far sightedness, slow tyre leaks, diareaha, thirst, hunger pangs, pregnancy, imptoency, untraceable rattles, tools going missing, Decreased fuel consumption, forum flame wars, the planet to tilt off axis causing the GPS satelites to mis-align stopping any toyota/nissan driver from ever getting anywhere ever again, the proton electron relationship to reverse, projectile vomiting, injector dribbling, your coffee to be too hot, premature ejaculation, your coffee to be too cold, penis envy, missing your gate pattern and shifting from 5th to second as opposed to 4th causing your engine to jump out of the engine bay in an ugly mess, typo graphical errors, cancer, aids, problematic spelling, coherent thought loss, cleavage fixations, warts, herpes, harpies, hippies, flacutation, constipation, ozone depetion, rainforest clear cutting, rising fuel prices, reruns on TV, change to fall down the back of the couch, divorce, the desire to say "Nei", poor impersonations, impersonations you think are good but can never quite do the same when theres anyone watching, inebriation, deja vu, inebriation, deja vu, sort term memory loss, psycosis, long term memory loss, dyslexia, DNA resequencing, alien abductions, stale breakfast cereal, famine, greed, coverting thy neighbours wife, absurdly long sarcastic replies to apparently simple questions, internet crashes, market crashes, plane crashes, car crashes, computer crashes, spit ball fights, mobile phone drop outs, drop outs, gyros to stop doing what ever it is they do that makes them able to do what they do, power black outs, hoons, confusion, grey nomads driving slowly when you need to go fast, power surges, your favorite sticker getting all dirty, rain, drought, fire, brown outs, dobbo to break something landrover related, Discostew to break himself on something pushbike related, george130 to break something expensive, voyager getting flung to the delta quadrant, ford to forget his towel, Lister to get stuck in stasis, eddies in the fabric of space time and the earth to revolve backwards causing time to reverse to the point just before the event occoured.


    Given that my coffee cup is not equiped with any TARDIS techology, stasis fields inertia dampers or Temporal shielding the sudden inertial forces involved in spinning a planet the wrong way then allowing it to resume normal rotation will cause my coffee to spill, that would be bad as I would then have to do something about trying to get something like a normal nights sleep instead of getting a caffine hit to get rid of my morning grumpies......

    On the behalf of morning coffee dependant people every where

    Please,

    dont do whatever it was you were asking about in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    dont put tubes in tubless tyres,
    dont take the tubes out of tubed tyres
    dont run the tubless tyres on a rim intended for tubed tyres
    dont run tubes on rims designed to be tubless.
    dont put tubes in tyres with runflats
    dont put runflats in tube tyres.

    failure to adhere to these warnings will cause

    uneven tyre wear, tyre overheating, instant tyre explosions, steering misalignment, chassis warping, rust, electrical problems, windows cracking, seat bases collapsing, jack failure, siezed wheel nuts, uneven tyre pressures, extended braking distances, heart failure, near sighted ness, palpatations, The ability to drive like the stig, increased fuel consumption, loss of the benifits of the hiclone if fitted, turbo bearing seal failure, warped manifolds, spat timing belts, pinging, automatic transmission overheat, clutch judder, The desire to own a toyota, far sightedness, slow tyre leaks, diareaha, thirst, hunger pangs, pregnancy, imptoency, untraceable rattles, tools going missing, Decreased fuel consumption, forum flame wars, the planet to tilt off axis causing the GPS satelites to mis-align stopping any toyota/nissan driver from ever getting anywhere ever again, the proton electron relationship to reverse, projectile vomiting, injector dribbling, your coffee to be too hot, premature ejaculation, your coffee to be too cold, penis envy, missing your gate pattern and shifting from 5th to second as opposed to 4th causing your engine to jump out of the engine bay in an ugly mess, typo graphical errors, cancer, aids, problematic spelling, coherent thought loss, cleavage fixations, warts, herpes, harpies, hippies, flacutation, constipation, ozone depetion, rainforest clear cutting, rising fuel prices, reruns on TV, change to fall down the back of the couch, divorce, the desire to say "Nei", poor impersonations, impersonations you think are good but can never quite do the same when theres anyone watching, inebriation, deja vu, inebriation, deja vu, sort term memory loss, psycosis, long term memory loss, dyslexia, DNA resequencing, alien abductions, stale breakfast cereal, famine, greed, coverting thy neighbours wife, absurdly long sarcastic replies to apparently simple questions, internet crashes, market crashes, plane crashes, car crashes, computer crashes, spit ball fights, mobile phone drop outs, drop outs, gyros to stop doing what ever it is they do that makes them able to do what they do, power black outs, hoons, confusion, grey nomads driving slowly when you need to go fast, power surges, your favorite sticker getting all dirty, rain, drought, fire, brown outs, dobbo to break something landrover related, Discostew to break himself on something pushbike related, george130 to break something expensive, voyager getting flung to the delta quadrant, ford to forget his towel, Lister to get stuck in stasis, eddies in the fabric of space time and the earth to revolve backwards causing time to reverse to the point just before the event occoured.


    Given that my coffee cup is not equiped with any TARDIS techology, stasis fields inertia dampers or Temporal shielding the sudden inertial forces involved in spinning a planet the wrong way then allowing it to resume normal rotation will cause my coffee to spill, that would be bad as I would then have to do something about trying to get something like a normal nights sleep instead of getting a caffine hit to get rid of my morning grumpies......

    On the behalf of morning coffee dependant people every where

    Please,

    dont do whatever it was you were asking about in the first place.
    I think I could cope except for the highlighted bit

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    Smile

    Bloody hell Dave, after reading that I wont say what I'm running on my Suzi

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    OK I want you to explain without doubt why.As has been said,why would a tubed tyre stay on the bead and a tubeless wouldn't if both were on tubed style rims?.No BS just state facts. Pat
    It's the law....

    Pretty much all I need to say.

    Ive covered it other than that and Dave has also in his tyical take no prisoners style.

    I dont need to explain it, quite a few mechanical engineers world wide have done it for me.........you know more than them do you Pat...?

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