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Thread: Would you say this MAF was faulty?

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    Would you say this MAF was faulty?

    The MAF on my 95 Disco 3.9 V8 is playing up.It drives perfectly fine and doesnt miss a beat but it gets to a point where the idle just drops quickly and sometimes stalls.At times it idles beautifully and then all of a sudden the revs can drop and stall.Especially when selecting Drive,going from Reverse.(auto)
    Ive used MAF cleaner and done all the other checks such as Cleaning throttle body,Stepper motor,the hose on back of plennum.Power isnt down and when i disconnect the MAF plug it will run rough and stall.Its not on gas and im out of answers.Is it time for a new one or have i missed something else? Could the idle mixture be out? Dont know where to look next and before i fork out alot of money for a new one i want to be sure it is faulty.Also forgot to mention that when the motor is first started cold in the morning it has a slight flat spot and then runs like normal. Out of ideas!
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    Chris

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    With my disco the stepper motor was the issue as far as idle was concerned,you could buy one of the chinese made MAF's for a little over a $100 and try it.I would take it to a tune shop,ultra tune etc and get them to run a system interigation and find out what is happening. Pat

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    Also check the throttle position sensor, with an analogue ohm meter, while its still warm.

    Bruce.

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    OK i sorted it all out.A big thanks to Mike 90 RR.He pointed me in the right direction and now it all sorted Saved me a few hundred dollars as well.I checked the reading off the AFM and the TPS.And they were well out.My initial TPS reading was .24 volts and ive got it on .33 volts.Which is where it should be i think.I forgot to read the AFM reading but it is now perfectly adjusted to about 1.3.
    It was a pretty simple job to do and didnt take me long at all.All i needed to use was a multimeter.So if you think your AFM is stuffed try this first.It might save you alot of money in the long run It idles nicely now with no hunting or stalling.And thanks BMac for the reply as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPROVER View Post
    OK i sorted it all out.A big thanks to Mike 90 RR.He pointed me in the right direction and now it all sorted Saved me a few hundred dollars as well.I checked the reading off the AFM and the TPS.And they were well out.My initial TPS reading was .24 volts and ive got it on .33 volts.Which is where it should be i think.I forgot to read the AFM reading but it is now perfectly adjusted to about 1.3.
    It was a pretty simple job to do and didnt take me long at all.All i needed to use was a multimeter.So if you think your AFM is stuffed try this first.It might save you alot of money in the long run It idles nicely now with no hunting or stalling.And thanks BMac for the reply as well.
    Voltage reading on a MAF is an approximate fix and will get you out of trouble, to set it correctly you need to stick an analyser in the tail pipe and adjust it to specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It'sNotWorthComplaining! View Post
    Voltage reading on a MAF is an approximate fix and will get you out of trouble, to set it correctly you need to stick an analyser in the tail pipe and adjust it to specs.
    The specs are only for ADR's. With catalytic engines, this adjusts the MAF correctly for the oxygen sensors to make sure they are getting the correct information and for this setup is a reasonably critical function.

    For non-cat engines, the "spec" is to set it to 1200ppm and 1% CO2, purely for emissions.
    A non cat engine will respond to both TPS and MAF adjustments as a "tweaking" measure and have quite dramatic results in just about all cases.

    By no means is it an "approximate fix" but a mandatory check at least once a year in a major service.

    With a lot of these engines getting tired now, adjusting to specs will never happen and can send the engine into fits of hunting and running rough due to loss of compression, poor ignition etc etc.

    Cheers

    Andrew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE View Post
    A non cat engine will respond to both TPS and MAF adjustments as a "tweaking" measure and have quite dramatic results in just about all cases.
    And a big thanks to LOVEMYRANGIE & PHILLIPA for getting my beast to behave itself



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    Since i have adjusted it i have had no problems at all. Ive done a couple of hundred kays and she idles better,doesnt hunt in the rev range and most of all it hasnt stalled.

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    Read this with interest as my 94 classic has similar symptoms. I'd really appreciate any info on how the AFM is adjusted, what the setting should be and where it is measured, have done the TPS adjustment before on my old car but never adjusted this AFM. Also can you remind me which wires to measure the TPS setting from?
    Have you noticed any improvement in economy with this adjustment? my car seems to be running very rich and guzzling petrol.
    Thanks
    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPROVER View Post
    OK i sorted it all out.A big thanks to Mike 90 RR.He pointed me in the right direction and now it all sorted Saved me a few hundred dollars as well.I checked the reading off the AFM and the TPS.And they were well out.My initial TPS reading was .24 volts and ive got it on .33 volts.Which is where it should be i think.I forgot to read the AFM reading but it is now perfectly adjusted to about 1.3.
    It was a pretty simple job to do and didnt take me long at all.All i needed to use was a multimeter.So if you think your AFM is stuffed try this first.It might save you alot of money in the long run It idles nicely now with no hunting or stalling.And thanks BMac for the reply as well.
    mine is doing the same thing exactly

    can you please post up how to check and adjust these settings

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