Thread: Adding 2 stoke oil to your diesel

I only read the beginning of the 1st post in that linked thread.

I'm surprised how many people think Sulphur was in diesel fuel for lubrication. It is an impurity, and unlike TE Lead was not for lubrication.

However, the cheapest way for refineries to reduce the Sulphur content in diesel, does have the side effect of reducing lubricity.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Love your wit Ron! I think it went over most people's heads. It should Always be written with a capital S. And that is Sir George Stokes - probably one of the only worthwhile products of Ireland - apart from U2 and The Pogues of course. And yes, 2 St (Stokes) oil would be about an order of magnitude higher than diesel fuel

I suspect that adding 2-stRoke oil increases the lubricity of the diesel by a slight amount. In Germany (and I think France), all diesel now contains a minimum of 5% Bio to improve lubricity. (Edit - just read the thread and it says much the same). However, running B10 or B20 should have a similar effect.

Hi,u.k.diesel also has I think 5 % bio diesel added to help ""offset carbon emissions"

Originally Posted by catch-22

What ever brand oil you decide to mix, make sure it is soluble in diesel and does not globulate or simply sink.

I did a lot of testing with my race car which now runs e85 (ethonol) and lets only one oil would mix.

Prior to tuning the race car with ethonol I would mix 1:150 Motul 2 stroke oil with no probs (tested outside the car before I decided on that brand). Not diesel related by certainly worth noting.

BTW - race car is a Mazda rx7 13b turbo (rotary) and I am not running the OMP...

Cheers
Caine

Mineral oils do not dissolve readily in methanol, so dedicated racing fuels like Shell "A" always contained a percentage of 100 octane motor spirit to dissolve the small percentage of oil that was added to counteract the "washing" effect of very rich methanol fuel/air mixtures on valve stems. From memory, "A" was 92% methanol and rest was made up of motor spirit, oil, benzol. Way back, castor oil was added to racing fuels giving the distinctive odour that race engines emitted when using it.

Yep. I use a castor based oil with the e85 (85% ethonol = big boost and no detination) but used a different oil when I was running 98 Ron pump fuel.

Many brands of oil said that they would mix with e85 and calls were even made to their tech department and they just didn't, hence the reason I suggested people test for themselves outside the car. Not hard, a little diesel in a glass jar and mix the 2 stroke....see what happens..

Originally Posted by scott oz

Mate what's B10 / B20. I just go to the same service station because I know the fuel is good and fill up. there's only one pump - no choice

really interested in this topic.

10 or 20% biodiesel.

Many servos sell it - e.g. gull in WA sell a fuel with "up to 20%" Bio. Note that if you run 100% bio you should change your oil more frequently, as the bio degrades it faster.

Only slightly off the topic, at work when they change the oil in the trucks
(c15 cats) they filter it to 1 micron then put it in the fuel tank.
1100km home to fuel up at Goondiwindi no diffrence in fuel use.

I think i will try some 2 stroke in my old tractor first,
then might in the 200tdi.

Andrew

'93 200tdi disco
'65 88" s2a

Originally Posted by AKW

Only slightly off the topic, at work when they change the oil in the trucks
(c15 cats) they filter it to 1 micron then put it in the fuel tank.


Andrew

'93 200tdi disco
'65 88" s2a

so what ratio fuel/oil does that work out to Andrew?

Originally Posted by AKW

Only slightly off the topic, at work when they change the oil in the trucks
(c15 cats) they filter it to 1 micron then put it in the fuel tank.
1100km home to fuel up at Goondiwindi no diffrence in fuel use.

I think i will try some 2 stroke in my old tractor first,
then might in the 200tdi.

Andrew

'93 200tdi disco
'65 88" s2a

Racor used to make plant that would separate and filter waste oil and meter it to your bulk fuel supply in a ratio determined by you.