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    Amp for new speakers or not?

    I've put in a new Alpine head unit and I'm thinking of changing the four stock speakers to Alpine ones (assuming they're 4") and fitting an active sub.

    Would this give an adequate result or is there merit in running the new speakers through an amp?

    Also are there any amps that will run 4 speakers and one or two passive subs? Most of them seem to do only 4 channels and Alpine amps are rather expensive to be buying two.

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    You can get amps with 5 channel, 4 speakers and sub, its a good idea to amp the speakers, that way you can tune it alot better, removing the bass from the speakers and only using them for mid-high range, helps alot with distortion

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    I run my rear 6x9's and sub off my amp and the fronts run off the deck

    Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    You can get amps with 5 channel, 4 speakers and sub, its a good idea to amp the speakers, that way you can tune it alot better, removing the bass from the speakers and only using them for mid-high range, helps alot with distortion
    Interesting - didn't know there was such a thing, I've found a JBL 5 channel I rather like.

    I'm thinking maybe one 4 channel alpine amp and just crapping out on a cheap ass powered sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B92 8NW View Post
    Interesting - didn't know there was such a thing, I've found a JBL 5 channel I rather like.

    I'm thinking maybe one 4 channel alpine amp and just crapping out on a cheap ass powered sub.
    The first step is a reasonable amp and sub, will get reasonable sound, next step is amp the speakers, then good speakers, thats my opinion

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    Sounds like a logical process. What does "bridging" mean? Does that mean its possible to combined left and rear speakers onto one channel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B92 8NW View Post
    Sounds like a logical process. What does "bridging" mean? Does that mean its possible to combined left and rear speakers onto one channel?
    No, you bridge 2 channels, i.e. left and right rear, to create a high powered mono amplification fro a sub

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    You are on the right track here. Base is non directional so Ok with mono.
    Most amps will allow you to connect a non fading pre out from a head unit. You just bridge the out put to the sub. Most also have a LO Hi pass coil also for slick bass etc

    Alpine are good gear, I still install a few these days.

    In a lot of cases a good head unit, an amp with a sub woofer makes a huge improvement even with stock low wattage speakers.

    If you start changing things keep in mind impedance of the speakers with the high out put amp. Speaker Impedance Explained - Ohms

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    You won't run a sub without an amp.
    The RCA outputs on the back of the deck are pre-outs for amp connections.
    A 4 channel amp with a bridgeable 3-4 is OK, but you will only run 2 speakers off it as the sub will need the bridged 3-4.

    Run a 4 channel amp (Alpine V Power series) for the speakers and an Alpine monoblock amp for the sub.
    The Alpine PDX amps are good for small space as they are stackable and can be hidden behind the rear cargo panels.

    Speakerwise, JL Audio make a very good range but if your an audiophile like me, Focalfrom JMLab. You just cant beat a hand wound and tuned speaker.
    The Access1 and Polyglass are very high quality units going way beyond anything Alpine, Clarion and all the "mainstream" manufacturers produce.

    Steer clear of Sony Xplode and all the other cheap crap peddled by mass product shops and autoparts stores. You started on a high with Alpine, don't spoil it!!!

    I just love Focal gear.... its my Overfinch of audio...

    Focal car audio Australia | Amplifiers | Speakers | Subwoofers |

    http://www.jlaudio.com/

    http://www.alpine.com.au/products/index.asp'section=4

    Cheers

    Andrew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE View Post

    Steer clear of Sony Xplode and all the other cheap crap peddled by mass product shops and autoparts stores. You started on a high with Alpine, don't spoil it!!!


    Focal car audio Australia | Amplifiers | Speakers | Subwoofers |

    JL Audio

    Alpine Electronics of Australia

    Cheers

    Andrew.
    I am always interested in advice on car stereo, sorry ICE, I am a fan of Alpine, but also Sony, so I am interested in your comments about Xplode, I am not second guessing as I have no clue about whats beneath the skin, but interested in a lesson about whats good and bad.
    Fancy an iDA-X305 myself!

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