HS 2.8L TGV turbo Diesel ?

If your issue is a lack of power when your towing, here's another, propably cheaper option...

Take the transfer gears out of a Defender Transfer box and drop them into the Disco T/Box. Lots of people do the opposite (disco gears into Defender) to get the engine to drop the revs when motor way cruising in the Defender... I know from experience though that the Defender gearing is much better when your towing heavy loads...

If you need the high gearing also, use an overdrive on the R380.

One other thing that hasnt been mentioned, the 2.8TGV has a habit of eating clutches prematurely if you tow heavy loads a lot. Good solution though if left as standard and you dont tow HEAVY loads regularly.

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Originally Posted by uninformed

I have a 2.8tgv in my 110 trayback. my 300tdi did a conrod/crank bearing at 230000km. i tow a 1.8t trailer 5 days a week.

the cooling issue was solved by finding a thermostat that cracked earlier. there are many issues with the 300tdi and in general LR's.

i have stated my opinion here a few times in the end it always ends in a psiing match by the realists and the brand blinded.

its not a drop in replacement but can be done. if you have the 300tid some bits can be taken from it like the plenumn to make the fit better.

to get the best and longevity out of the 2.8 i personally think it should be mounted in the 200tdi postion, then a full width radiatio and a full width intercooler could be fitted. But you wont find the bits to adapt the short bellhousing to r380....although one could be made.

if i was to do the engine swap again and i was able to get it engineered i would put in a brand new chev alloy v8 and auto.....and at the price that you can buy the 6.0s at youd do it for the same price or less as a 2.8tgv!

Serg

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I rekon that the V8 option is the go or find a real oiler not a pommy or south effrican POS put a JAP oiler in it and be snobed by all the LR afincidiados :p

What about a cummins or a cat??? Do you want to stay diesel? I would keep the disco and change the turbo and exhaust plus intercooler first...

I think you should all take a reality check.We are taking about a 12 year old vehicle worth maybe $8000 so spending 15 grand fitting a bigger engine is insane.I'd go johns way and fit lower trans gears or just sit back and cruise at 90,that what all the V8TD cruiser drivers do anyway or they only get 500k's out of 120ltr tanks. Pat

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Originally Posted by uninformed

last time i spoke to them, which was this year i believe, they said parts were very hard to come by, some stuff was on back order for a very long time with LR and pretty much no hope.

are you looking into a 2.8tgv?

Serg

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Dave just emailed me back yesterday:
Ashcroft Transmissions

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We are able to either supply a kit of parts to allow you to convert your R 380 to this spec or we can supply a complete rebuilt unit to this spec.

The conversion parts are :

Bellhousing (FTC4018) inc bolts £ 165

Pinion (TUD102860) £ 85

Front Housing (TVQ100200) £ 32

Clutch fork pivot(FTC4173&FTC4174) inc screws £ 14

Clutch fork (FTC2957HD) £ 10

Clutch fork thrust pads, pair (FRC5255) £ 4

Clutch release bearing (UTJ100210) £ 24

Clutch release bearing clip (FRC3416) £ 1.20

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Not looking at the TGV, a different 2.8 instead...

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Originally Posted by Bush65

I know what you are saying about towing with a 300Tdi.

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If you are determined to do an engine conversion, there are other engine options that I consider before the HS2.8TVG ...

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

...Not looking at the TGV, a different 2.8 instead...

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ok, i'll bite.... are you talking about a 2.8 isuzu?

i know both you guys really know your stuff, and at the end of the day its all a personal choice. but , IMO if you are going to work the def and tow a heavy load and a regular basis, i would be looking for something over 3.5lts

Serg

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Originally Posted by uninformed

ok, i'll bite.... are you talking about a 2.8 isuzu?

i know both you guys really know your stuff, and at the end of the day its all a personal choice. but , IMO if you are going to work the def and tow a heavy load and a regular basis, i would be looking for something over 3.5lts

Serg

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I am looking at putting a 4JB1T in my IIA (Isuzu 2.8L). For a defender I would fit a 4BD1T every time, but I want to keep the IIA (reasonably) original externally - so bonnet and grille will be staying the same (hence why I need the short bellhousing). The IIA is a lot lighter than the 110. I also think that a lighter engine fitted further back gives a much better weight balance offroad.

i've been thinkin about the TGV conversion for my county for a while now after reading these threads im a bit unsure just want decent power from a diesel.some say 4bdiT but then others say they shake the car to bits was on MDengineering site they have kits for TGV dont even need to move engine mounts they have adaptors well thats what there site says.i was hopin to pick up aTGV in U.S.A as im movin there in 10days.send it home till we return then drop it in.now im confused any ideas on what the best over all cobversion would be $$$ and power wise not really planin on towing much:confused:

adrian

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Originally Posted by ADDO110

i've been thinkin about the TGV conversion for my county for a while now after reading these threads im a bit unsure just want decent power from a diesel.some say 4bdiT but then others say they shake the car to bits was on MDengineering site they have kits for TGV dont even need to move engine mounts they have adaptors well thats what there site says.i was hopin to pick up aTGV in U.S.A as im movin there in 10days.send it home till we return then drop it in.now im confused any ideas on what the best over all cobversion would be $$$ and power wise not really planin on towing much:confused:

adrian

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Depends what you are looking for. Maybe try driving a 4BD1T powered landie before you leave.

The 4JB1T is probably a cheaper option than the TGV and capable of equivalent performance.