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You're joking about the X9 surely? Being marginally cheaper than a Warn but only marginally better than a chinese one is disappointing. Especially considering its an OEM Toyota accessory.
Anyway thanks for all the ideas. Better go for a drive and check one out!
Its not comprehensive but this from when I serviced my tigerzII.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-t...stripdown.html
just last weekend had a look at the guts of a superwinchX9 for a mate...
Compared to say a WARN10000 or WARN9000 slow mount they have slightly better motor sealing but slightly worse GBox sealing. The TigerzII IMHO has better sealing at both ends than any of above. This winch was unused but had sat on the front of a company ute for the length of the lease. Surface corrosion but not bad, grease in gearbox had gone to glue (change it me thinks) and there was a wee shade of rust within the motor assembly. Interestingly it appeared to have solid state relays...
I still like my Tigerz!!!
S
I only heard about using their solenoids a couple of days ago from a neighbour with a Patrol. He used it to replace the 4 Pack of Solenoids on his WARN winch. He mounted it remotely from the winch (engine bay) to keep it clear of dirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by dullbird
Being "solid state" and sealed its not such an issue keeping them away from the muck... I guess terminals can corrode though. Keeping them close to the winch motor reduces wiring runs and potential voltage drop.
S
But my name isn't Shirley!Quote:
Originally Posted by B92 8NW
I've been waiting years to use that.....
The planetary gear housing is superior in the Superwinch, as are the armatures that hold the brushes. But will that matter greatly? Prob not.
Don't be disappointed, the Superwench is a good unit. If you bought it from a dealer then there's half your problem in terms of its cost. Other than that, it will do what it's advertised to do. Pull a maximum load of four tonnes. Keep that in mind and double it up if you need to and will work fine, albeit slowly.
I'm not knocking their relays. They look similar to those manufactured by Albright, and I know the Albright units give good service.
But the site (link in post above), and several people in this thread and another on winch problems have claimed that the relays are solid state.
To call these solenoids solid state is completely false and misleading - but then a lot of people (without knowing better) also use electronic instead of electric.
Solid state circuits or devices are built entirely from solid materials (usually crystalline silicon) and in which the electrons, or other charge carriers, are confined entirely within the solid material.
The Tigerz and Albright units use conventional electromagnetic solenoids with several moving parts and contactors for switching. They package these in a compact box to do the same as the 4 large solenoids in the normal winch controller.
Solid state relays use Thyristor, SCR (Silicon Controlled Rectifier), or MOSFET (Metal Oxide Semiconductor Field Effect Transistor) devices.
Warn make the only solid state (MOSFET) controller for 4x4 winches that I know of.
http://www.warn.com/truck/accessorie...ET_Control.jpg
True solid state e.g. Mosfet is superior technology, but I'm not recommending anyone spend their $$$ on Warn's mosfet unit - I would think the Tigerz or Albright relays will be more economical and be reliable/suitable enough.
Interesting morning. Now have a 12000 lb tiger in my driveway from Patrolparts Lilydale and lots of beer money from the difference. Looks pretty good, although my ARB bar will need drilling to fit the hawse fairlead.
well there you go - once again assumption is the source of all error.
thanks John... solid state they are not!
Steve
The motor and gearbox don't seem to be able to be rotated 90 deg so that the controls are facing upwards when mounted feet forward. As such the earth terminal fouls the bar. I had an engineering shop make up proper spacing plates *cough bs* to clear the terminal and fairlead mounting nuts. They're well greased inside too, though I did grease mine before putting it in.
For Up2nogood...
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is correct - I just spent the day cleaning and greasing my x9. Also, I noticed that the earth for the brush holder in the end cap (That other nut you see next to the motor bolts) wasn't conducting properly and eating the metal away like a short, probably due to the silicone used. I added a thick wire from that bolt to the earth on the motor to try and remedy it.
and, for B92 - for whatever reason, the x9 really really does what it advertises, and keeps on ticking. That slovenia motor odds on originally was russian in design, and they used to know how to make electric motors bulletproof.