super sized trawlers- no thanks!

You may be very well correct and the science is not perfect hence why the precautionary effect is used in determining targets.

AFMA is not backward in closing fisheries - the Bass Strait Scallop fishery was closed (may still be closed) for many years even despite evidence of recovery as AFMA believed it had not recovered enough - so if they thought there were any sustainability issues they would have been acted upon.

In this case I think the low TAC as a % of biomass and the Pelagic nature of the fish mitigate against localised loss of fish stocks (noting that large purse sein trawlers up to 5000t have been operating in the south east before and certainly did not create the feared localised effects - or Margiris hysteria). If the small pelagics were like orange roughy which are slow breeding and just live around sea mounts and cannot swim to other sea mounts to repopulate them then i doubt AFMA would approve the use of large vessels that could wipe out sea mount populations (large Russian trawlers did this many years ago to many Southern Ocean seamounts and the orange roughy stocks either no longer exist on some or are taking a long time to recover).

Any way enough of my rambling

Most of my day spend playing eye spy and similar witht the kids while in a cue of boats about 20km long. If we were using union tacics the roads would have been kaos, we quietly stuck hard to the left hand side to allow people to get past:)

Was told it is not just 18000 tonnes it come with an option of a 2nd 18000 tonnes of fish none of which is for you or I to eat :mad:

Template below for asking my local Pollies where they sit on this. Feel free to use or adapt it to your own use.

Dear Ministers
Several dozen boat towed from Portland, Warrnambool and even Doncaster joined a long cue of hundreds of people protesting the “Margiris”. I was almost at the front of a long line of boats about 20km from the Westgate and heard people on the bridge giving some indication on how many families and people who enjoy fishing where involved. I did meet several dozen people from your electorates whom are as concerned as I am on this issue.

I am more than disgusted that the (federal) government body which authorised this ship and the quotas of 18000 tonnes plus another 18000 tonnes of our fishery stocks to be abused without first checking the basis of the data the decisions where based on. It is more disturbing to hear of fraud or significant procedural anomalies including blatant conflicts of interest of people paid in advisory/board roles by this government.

Could you please state your positions on this topic. Please help stop the ship the Labour government has allowed into to our waters. Please support any independent members bills to gt this ship back to its home in the already overfished northern oceans.


Sitting on the fence on this issue is not appreciated

Regards

Senator Joe Ludwig
Phone: (02) 6277 7520 or (07) 3229 4477
Email: joe.ludwig@maff.gov.au Mail PO Box 6022 Parliament House Canberra ACT 2600

Dear Minister Ludwig

My family and I are very concerned about the lack of a proper study before allowing the FV Margiris to take 18,000,000 or more kilograms of fish from our oceans.

Experiments on this scale are not acceptable. Please stop this ship at least until a full scientific study of the impact:
· on the actual target species,
· on other fish dependant on the target species,
· on non target fish and birds
· on recreation fishing
· on tourism in areas to be impacted by this ship

Regards

you I hope:D

I know what a billiard cue looks like and even cued music so it came in on cue, I've even seen plenty of queues but one wonders what a boat cue looks like? :twisted:

Personally I'd like to see our Navy authorised to put a few shots over their bow and told to nick off back to the Northern Hemisphere (Holland) where they came from and told{in not so kind terms} not to come back.But pigs can't fly either.

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Originally Posted by Disco44

Personally I'd like to see our Navy authorised to put a few shots over their bow and told to nick off back to the Northern Hemisphere (Holland) where they came from and told{in not so kind terms} not to come back.But pigs can't fly either.

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Can see were your coming from:) Clearly threatening them will give them 'excuses' of calling us nutters which would not help. I am more a former submarine or torpedo type myself.
The ministers staff told me he is getting thousands of emails, letters and phone calls:angel:. Hope he get the point the polite way and via all the other political types who are calling.

Spelling is not my strong point sorry Lotz-A-Landies. Consider myself "Moderated":)

Saw this thing on the news the other night , there was mention of how quickly it could take it's quota , [cant remember the exact details] .
can't help wondering what it will do once it reaches it's quota , sit around idle ?
How can it be viable to bring it here ? Is there more to it ?

Stop the Super Trawler | CommunityRun

only takes a minute. :D

Good news and about time :banana::banana:

Government to legislate to stop super trawlers

It seems they may have got it thru and a 2 year ban on that size fishing vessel.
They say it was largely to a huge backlash from recreational fishers and proffessional fishermen.:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Andrew