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    Rough running at high power

    On a trip over the weekend I started to get some rough running after extended periods above 2500rpm (generally hills in 3rd gear). Felt just like a "miss" in a petrol engine under high load.

    I'm thinking its just insufficient fuel, and most likely to be the inline filter I fitted temporarily during the conversion becoming a bit blocked. Its been on there for 5000k's and is due to be removed anyway when I fit a CAV filter/sedimenter.
    Other than that it seems to be running fine. No problems with pulling strongly to the governor in 3rd when accellerating on the flat.

    The only thing that didn't make sense for me with a filter issue was that it was worst if I lifted my boot slightly off full throttle. Sinking it back in smoothed it out, but no real change in power. I expected that a filter blockage would cause it to get worse at full throttle - but have never had filter issues on a diesel before so maybe thats not correct.
    Interested in other's experiences (or if there is some other problem on a 4bd1 that could give these symptoms).

    Steve

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    I agree it sounds like insufficient fuel. Apart from the filter, it could be the almost inaccessible strainer on the bottom of the fuel pump, where the fuel line attaches, or an air leak anywhere on the suction side, or a blocked or partly blocked fuel tank breather.

    Less likely is something like an exhaust valve sticking when it gets hot, or an injector malfunctioning when hot, or something along those lines.

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    That is the exact symptom mine gave when the tiny gauze filter blocked up. The problem I then had was that the lift ( primer) pump gave up the ghost at the same time.
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    Both mine have done the same..... Never fixed it though

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    JDNSW/Deejay - I actually removed the gauze filter before I installed the engine (since its such a PITA to get at) and fitted the inline filter to do the same job, so sounds like its that filter as I thought.

    Best I just get off my butt and fit the CAV filter/sedimenter thats sitting on my workbench

    Rovercare - I'm assuming the engine/s you had the problem with aren't the one you are running now? Doesn't sound like that would go as well with a fuel restriction

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    Yea, the one in there now, it's a small hesitation, same revs, heavy load, the reco engine in my rr was the same, this one was fine at 300k till upping the fuel, I'm guessing it's to do with the pump

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Yea, the one in there now, it's a small hesitation, same revs, heavy load, the reco engine in my rr was the same, this one was fine at 300k till upping the fuel, I'm guessing it's to do with the pump
    I also get a slight hiccup/hesitation occasionally when I give it a bootful around the same revs but lighter load. Like a bad accellerator pump on a carby motor, but not enough to worry about.

    This roughness under heavy load will continue for a few seconds before I either lighten off or change up a gear. Would probably continue the same if I let it but I dont like the feeling ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveG View Post
    I also get a slight hiccup/hesitation occasionally when I give it a bootful around the same revs but lighter load. Like a bad accellerator pump on a carby motor, but not enough to worry about.

    This roughness under heavy load will continue for a few seconds before I either lighten off or change up a gear. Would probably continue the same if I let it but I dont like the feeling ...

    Steve
    Ok mine aren't that bad

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    I agree fuel.

    The filter seems unlikely but replacing it is a quick and easy way to check. Being a stage 1 and so a bit older I'm thinking lift pump. Mine died and the 2nd one was a dud. The current lift pump is a Bosch and has a roller bearing on the end of the cam lifter instead of just a flat surface - very flash.

    As a last resort I would check the fuel line joins disconnected as part of the engine fit for air leaks and check the fuel tank pick up for blockage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    I agree fuel.

    The filter seems unlikely but replacing it is a quick and easy way to check. Being a stage 1 and so a bit older I'm thinking lift pump. Mine died and the 2nd one was a dud. The current lift pump is a Bosch and has a roller bearing on the end of the cam lifter instead of just a flat surface - very flash.

    As a last resort I would check the fuel line joins disconnected as part of the engine fit for air leaks and check the fuel tank pick up for blockage.
    I'm aware of the Bosch primer pump as a replacement for the original one. Is the lift pump also the primer pump, or a separate unit?

    Steve

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