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    Although driving down the highway at 80 kms/h isnt really going to bother me, like you said before Vern, the 1.003:1 LT230 is probably my best option. Are these transfer easily available? From what I've read the Defenders were 1.4 and the Discos/ Rangies were 1.2..

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    Have a look at the Ashcroft site they have a ratio calculator .As Vern said about 700 to high .Ideal revs at cruise should be fairly close to max torque revs

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    The 1.003 came in the first of the auto rangies with the 727 box and later in the county I think. There are two variations from memory, a needle roller and a taper roller, taper being the better. 26D is the suffix number.

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    AFAIK there is no bolt on adaptor kit

    Have a chat to CHT on this forum, he is one of the few people running an R380 behind an Isuzu. I'm pretty sure he had his custom made from an LT85 belhousing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock The Rock View Post
    AFAIK there is no bolt on adaptor kit

    Have a chat to CHT on this forum, he is one of the few people running an R380 behind an Isuzu. I'm pretty sure he had his custom made from an LT85 belhousing
    There are a couple of businesses that do the adaptor conversion I looked at it a few years ago and bought a LT85 Isuzu and R380 bell housing to get the conversion done but have never gone through with it and proberly never will. So if interested let us know, CHT can fill you in on his conversion.
    Garry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock The Rock View Post
    AFAIK there is no bolt on adaptor kit

    Have a chat to CHT on this forum, he is one of the few people running an R380 behind an Isuzu. I'm pretty sure he had his custom made from an LT85 belhousing
    Jock is correct - we modified an LT85 bell housing by fitting the rear of an R380 bell housing to the front of the LT85 bell housing. The vehicle has now done about 240,000ks with an R380 behind a factory turbo 4BD1T and all still going strong. (5 times across the Simpson; extensive travel in the outback and the high country up and down the east coast etc etc).

    C H T

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    4BD1 to R380 Update?

    Quote Originally Posted by C H T View Post
    Jock is correct - we modified an LT85 bell housing by fitting the rear of an R380 bell housing to the front of the LT85 bell housing. The vehicle has now done about 240,000ks with an R380 behind a factory turbo 4BD1T and all still going strong. (5 times across the Simpson; extensive travel in the outback and the high country up and down the east coast etc etc).

    C H T
    Hi CHT, Hope alls well with the Rover. Is the 4BD1T powered R380 still going 6 years on? I've just entered into defender ownership, and left a bit wanting on the power department. Looking to convert as I have a 4BD that needs a rebuild in the shed. Any updates and lessons learned would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcov View Post
    Hi CHT, Hope alls well with the Rover. Is the 4BD1T powered R380 still going 6 years on? I've just entered into defender ownership, and left a bit wanting on the power department. Looking to convert as I have a 4BD that needs a rebuild in the shed. Any updates and lessons learned would be appreciated.
    Marcov The 4BD1T/R380 is still going exceptionally well. The gearbox has now been behind the engine for roughly 300,000ks and is still going strong. The package works very well everywhere - from sand hills to rainforest and steep country. I can see no reason to use any other gearbox - the gear ratios with a 1.2:1 high-range transfer case are very well suited to the engine's power and torque characteristics. lift off torque is far better than the 300Tdi that was in the vehicle originally. The only negative with the Isuzu is the fact that it is governed to a bit above 3200 RPM which can be a slight hindrance on very long steep climbs in sand - gear selection becomes critical.

    After nearly 13 years with the Isuzu in the vehicle, and with 300Tdi and TD5 experience, I sill think that a factory turbo 4BD1T is the best diesel option.

    I will send you a PM with my phone number if you would like to give me a call.
    C H T

    PS It is very important to set up the engine etc correctly, especially if you turbo a naturally aspirated engine - there are some turbo options that are being used but my view is that the best turbo is the same as fitted to a factory turbo 4BD2T - I can supply the part number, and they are available ex Garrett Australia.
    Last edited by C H T; 16th April 2020 at 09:12 PM. Reason: additional Information

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    That turbo is a garret tb2568, its does the job fine if you are not trying to get max allowable power from the engine.

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    Re Turbo

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    That turbo is a garret tb2568, its does the job fine if you are not trying to get max allowable power from the engine.
    If I remember rightly it is a 466409-2 - I have just ordered a new one to replace mine which has come up due for replacement. Existing turbo was upgraded to 4BD2t spec many years ago and works exceptionally well hence going for another one.

    FWIW

    C H T

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