Who is getting confused by all the MSA/LT230 conversion threads?

Soon we'll have to start a thread for those confused by the MSA confused thread! :twisted:

Not really confused. I've learnt a lot about the mechanical side. Not surprised at the diversity of views and personal preferences - just like any other working group, but in this case we have no 'boss' to make the final decision, but then this is not a corporation trying to make a living. Just grateful it has not descended into personal abuse - which means I can annoy people with questions just that bit more :D

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Originally Posted by workingonit

Not really confused. I've learnt a lot about the mechanical side. Not surprised at the diversity of views and personal preferences - just like any other working group, but in this case we have no 'boss' to make the final decision, but then this is not a corporation trying to make a living. Just grateful it has not descended into personal abuse - which means I can annoy people with questions just that bit more :D

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Yes, I would have to agree how civil this whole subject has progressed even with the problems associated with the shaft and not being able to contact the manufacturer of the kit. Good to see:)

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Originally Posted by bacicat

I've read most of the posts about this, and as someone who will eventually get around to converting the 101 to a 4BD1T, am interested in running the MSA box, but yes, everything is way too confusing. I'm in the 'I want something bulletproof and would be happy to pay for it' camp, but I'm realistically a couple of years from needing to buy one. I'll sit back and wait for a while.

The other option is to keep the LT95 which would be far simpler, but that would be no fun... :)

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Do what I did and put the LT95 Tbox behind the MSA.
Its the only option for all those buying 6x6,s as well:cool:

I'm not confused, not convinced to replace my LT95s though either-especially since I have PTO winches to suit. Not got the dosh is the most convincing argument I have mind you...

I would prefer Keith's solution, even went as far as to buy an LT95 transfer that had been behind an auto but I didn't get photos and sadly bought one that had the auto inside the gearbox casing...and used the centre diff parts to try and rectify a KLR-induced problem anyway...

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Originally Posted by 123rover50

Do what I did and put the LT95 Tbox behind the MSA.
Its the only option for all those buying 6x6,s as well:cool:

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Why would a LT95 tranfer be any better than an LT230 transfer?

Only the Perentie LT95 have the tapered roller bearings and they only come in one ratio. I have a greater choice of ratios with the LT230 and I don't need the 6x6 drive out the PTO hole.

In addition I believe there is a pto option on the MSA gearbox or was it engine and this is not including the other pump point for power steering? So if you use the LT230 pto for something else you still have options I believe.

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Originally Posted by workingonit

In addition I believe there is a pto option on the MSA gearbox or was it engine and this is not including the other pump point for power steering? So if you use the LT230 pto for something else you still have options I believe.

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Most truck boxes have a PTO option out the side of the case, usually a hydraulic pump. Not sure about the MSA but clearance would be an issue.

There is definately a option for the 4BD/6BD series engines where there are two places on the timing case to attach pumps, mostly air for the brakes and hydraulic for PAS. Our Landy 4BD1s only have the one pump fitting for PAS.

The PTO hydraulics usually come out of the gearbox

123rover5 - had a skim through your threads (and a few diversions to other interesting things) but couldn't quickly see any major write up using the LT95 on the MSA. Link? If not, then new thread maybe?

Yes, I think it is the MSA and as you say maybe fitment problems - but if we can solve the MSA to LT230 shaft problem we can adapt anything :)