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i have gone from Subaru wrx and Kawasaki ninja zx9r and after putting 1300 km on my perentie I am considering not putting turbo on mine. I don't think it needs it unless your in a hurry. Quite frankly I got the car so I wouldn't be. But we will see :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern
having had various varieties of 4BD1 and 4BD1T i'll just say that each has its virtues...my favourite so far (after nearly one half dozen of the varieties available 4x4 6x6 nomall aspiration versus forced induction) is the 83 stage one hard top. It did the lot short of avoiding idiot patrol drivers. Standard and simple and the toughest vehicle bar none. IMO best L/R ever made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern
Good 4 door station wagon Stage 1 Landrovers are hard to find and still command high prices. My 100" used to be one. Sadly, you cannot sell a car on what it used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Svengali0
My favourite would be rovercares 4bd1t powered rangie classic, i liked that more than my 4bd1t msa powered lse soft dash rangie.
How is the stage 1 different from a Perentie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Svengali0
To me it looks like all the land rovers (Perentie, county etc) all look identical. So how is it the toughest?
I’d have coils springs over leaf springs any day of the week........personal choice I guess and power steering is nice as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Svengali0
Main obvious differences are that the Perentie has coil spring suspension and a modified chassis design which allows the spare to be stored underneath. The Perentie chassis was not used for any other LR.Quote:
Originally Posted by G.man
Other mechanical differences between diesel Stage 1s and Perentie include the engine (both are 4BD1 variants), the braking system and the drivetrain components.
It is a matter of debate as to which could be the toughest but I'll say one thing - the coils are easier on you back :)
Some 4X4 Perenties come with power steering and it can certainly be easily fitted to those without - it's a feature I find essential.
Doesn't coil sprung suspension potentially give you more flexibility to increase wheel travel etc over leaf springs?Quote:
Originally Posted by 87County
Yep, and much more comfortable to. Easier to work with ie lift, changing spring rates etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by G.man
I had a muscle car, coil sprung with 6-8 leafs which was heavy duty. I didn't see any comfort issues (maybe that is different when you are on corrugations).
All I did see was limitations, couldn't simply add bigger wheels (springs in the way), more things to get caught underneath etc.
Coil is nicely tucked away, nothing to catch onto rocks or anything, spring rates changeable already mentioned, etc. I just don't see any advantages of leafs over coils, only limitations, unless I have missed something entirely?
Isn't the stage 1 series 109" wheelbase while the perentie/county etc are all 110"?
I know that is just a 1" difference but I thought I read that somewhere...
I am also guessing the whole galvanised chassis was perentie only? Arguably that made it tougher in the long run [wink11]