Furthermore and plus.....
200tdi (2.5lt) dragging 2+ tonnes of whatever has a much harder life than a 4BD1 (3.9lt).........:D
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Furthermore and plus.....
200tdi (2.5lt) dragging 2+ tonnes of whatever has a much harder life than a 4BD1 (3.9lt).........:D
okay okay... I guess I should have said 'usable torque' or torque where you need it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Taz
anyways, the other fellas have given you the G.O. on why the 4BD1 beats the TDI...
Why would you want a woosy 200tdi that sounds like a Peugoet (did I spell that right) when you can have an engine that sounds like your local fruit truck;)
Justin
Gents,
Crikey - enough of the usuable torque gumf already. There is a device you can use to exploit the torque of even the most narrow of torque ranges - it's called a gear box and a manual Tdi has 10 gears.
I believe your application (what you do with it) drives your belief of which engine is best. I am very happy with my Tdi and I would not prefer an isuzu for what I do. And I'm sure there are many good people who prefer the isuzu over the Tdi. And I think thats great. There are no winners and loosers, both are great engines.
Good one Taz,Quote:
Originally Posted by Taz
I work on all these engines, and If i was towing a 3.5 ton boat, it'd be the Isuzu no question. If I was touring outback and needed some big payload and ruggedness with good fuel economy and reliability, a 300Tdi 130CC. If I was doing lots of road miles and spent a good deal of time driving, and didn't need heaps of space and carrying stuff etc, a D2 Td5 with a chip would be the bees knees- comfort and performance.
It s all about your needs , they'll all do the job
JC
Thanks for all the advice and tips, I'm hoping to pick up the new toy in about a week. I'll post some pics etc then.
I've owned a 200tdi, aTD5 dual cab, a Series IIa Dormobile with a Perkins Diesel fitted, and at the moment a Series IIa SWB which is being sold to help fund the new one.
It will be interesting to see how it compares to the above.
i own a 1994 200tdi and must say that it is a way better car to drive than the 1986 3.9 isuzu that is in the family as well , it might have to do with age difference but everything in the tdi is much more user friendly ie: gearbox,steering,comfort etc etc my 200tdi has done just under 230,000k's and feels like it is almost brand new (not sloppy) but i can also say the isuzu has been a good old truck as well but if your looking for somthing with a bit more power look along the lines of the latest 300tdi my old man has a 1998 300tdi and it goes like a rocket compared to the 200 and the isuzu and is also very quiet . after saying that i am looking at in the not to distant future overhauling the old isuzu and i was wondering would anyone hav any sugestions in upgrading performance ?
anyways cheers!
Is that old Isuzu non-turbo? If so there's a very obvious upgrade that'll make the 300tdi feel like a slug.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f
Have just got home with the 4BD1 120. Was a bit nervous jumping in a 19 yr old Land Rover that I didn't know:eek: for a 3&1/2 hour trip in the dark. We made it.:) Just posting this as I noticed on a long hill did not pull well as should with Turbo on it. It pulls well through the gears but won't hold power. At 80kmh in 4th(Santana) can feel a surge then when back of a bit comes clean. Has had new Filters 4000 Kms ago. I have Dyno specs here. when Turbo was fitted. 44kmh= 312nm & 35kw. 52kmh= 330nm & 44kw. 60kmh= 338nm & 54kw. 70kmh= 322nm & 60kw. 82kmh= 296nm & 62kw. 88kmh= 254nm & 61kw.
Was done by Turbo Glide Wollongong. Are these numbers what I should expect? 1st 4BD1 I've ever owned. Tony
PS. I didn't intend to post this on this thread. Sorry:(
Sorry for posting here. Mods delete if you wish. Tony