My county is better than your puma

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Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

ok dougal i see that point ... now when isuzu rate the 4bd1T to have 13psi boost and that is boosted up to 15-20psi does the engine have problems that start to occur? where as the tdi's are already at about 14psi hence having no trouble.

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No problems at 20psi. Rumour has it the head-gasket will let go around 60psi.

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Originally Posted by rovercare

Its grown from a ****ing contest to a full on sword fight:p





Those that playing ****ing contest....gets wet toes;)



Edit: oh, just a thought, but racing is for cars........chain off's for 4wd's:angel:

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sounds good to me.

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Originally Posted by rovercare

Its grown from a ****ing contest to a full on sword fight:p





Those that playing ****ing contest....gets wet toes;)



Edit: oh, just a thought, but racing is for cars........chain off's for 4wd's:angel:

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I'll be in that:D Lets see the others idle away with what I have towed in the past:angel:

dougal ::o 60psi :o ok so you are running 20psi no problems 60psi is in dangerous territory from what u have heard so say about 35psi what would you be doing to run that in your isuzu but have no melting/desintigrating occur?

Dobbo:easy for u to say because its your play toy and worth considerably less ;) than my deefer and seems a bit of a extreme measure just to find out which vehicle goes better ;)

dougal would u have any video of your truck like rijidij does ?

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Originally Posted by rick130

I've resisted getting involved, oh well......

In my 300Tdi I'm running 17psi, 3" dump and exhaust, the pump has been timed correctly, runs trick synthetic oil and fueled so that I can easily exceed 720*C and has seen the wrong side of 750* a couple of times with a 6mm probe so God only knows what the actual figure is..

......and it isn't that quick.....

A six cylinder Land Cruiser will blow it into the weeds, let alone a V8 Cruiser

Oh, and I'm fed up with fixing the damned thing.

My 130 is used as a truck so it will be getting a real truck engine in the medium term to replace the car engine that has needed a bottom end rebuild as the bearings can't take the load of the relatively mild state of tune it has and it will more than likely need a head gasket soon too as it's at that age when 300Tdi's let go and it's due another timing belt and I really should replace the water pump and P gasket just in case....at about 1/4 the km a Suzi would need repairs. ;)

Next to break will be the R380 behind a 4BD1T.....:(

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I think this is the only section of the forum where you can get away with saying that... and I too am disgusted by my Tdi. I don't care what the apologists, the dreamers and those with their false in-their-pants dogma say, but it doesn't have the capacity or the strength to be a true workhorse engine. I really can't see the basis of an argument in this thread, it is such a blatantly obvious black and white point.

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Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

dougal ::o 60psi :o ok so you are running 20psi no problems 60psi is in dangerous territory from what u have heard so say about 35psi what would you be doing to run that in your isuzu but have no melting/desintigrating occur?

Dobbo:easy for u to say because its your play toy and worth considerably less ;) than my deefer and seems a bit of a extreme measure just to find out which vehicle goes better ;)

dougal would u have any video of your truck like rijidij does ?

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[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws3D62pBI0A"]YouTube- Twin turbo isuzu powered diesel F100[/nomedia]
(note the boost guage on LHS)

Now please go away until:

(a) you are old enough to shave

or

(b) you have a clue

Errr, righto everyone play nicely now.


Yes the 4BD1T is a great engine, yes the Tdi is also a great engine. They just have vastly different characteristics.


This was actually a thread about Pumas aswell....:angel:


Be nice to each other :wasntme:


JC

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Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f

Dobbo:easy for u to say because its your play toy and worth considerably less ;) than my deefer and seems a bit of a extreme measure just to find out which vehicle goes better ;)

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My engine alone is worth $3500, the rest of the car is just pure profit to you. So are you in or not. I'll put down cash to match the red book value of your Defender.

My offer is valid for 24hrs after this post, if you decline then you must admit defeat, post up a formal apology and never speak ill of a 4BD1 again.

1:that is in america where they run things on obscene amounts of boost/fueling(60,70,80psi) and dont care if the thing blows up because they can buy one for half the price we can. so what things does he hav done to the engine?
2:save money on razzors :D
3:know nothing, know something or know too much, how is this determined!!!
4:even dougal takes the time to explain things and not just hav a "thats it no questions about it way" and he loves his isuzu's and likes to argue there points, so maybe u can hav a bit more of a discusion and not just throw it out the window once someone quierys anything about them;)....
5:dobbo please take a look at the figures of the 4bd1 (NA) compared to the Tdi's ;)
6:previous statement i hav made has been that 4bd1 (NA) is around the 50hp mark and i was told i am a nutter! then the next minute someone says "4bd1T is a big difference to the 4bd1(NA) even getting twice the torque and HP around the 100-120hp" doesnt that mean that half of that is 50hp?????? hence meaning i was correct or is dividing numerals done different these days?

I'm off to get my beauty sleep now(Boy do I need it:p), so you lot better not let this discussion degenerate into a slanging match or heads will roll, Achtung:nazilock:

JC