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    I think Davis Performance Landrovers in Sydney do this sort of stuff, Intercoolers, Tunes etc. You could check out their website & see what you think?
    Pickles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickles2 View Post
    I think Davis Performance Landrovers in Sydney do this sort of stuff, Intercoolers, Tunes etc. You could check out their website & see what you think?
    Pickles.
    MR Automotive at Reddcliffe in Brisbane and British Offroad on the Sunshine Coast would do this stuff too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baytown View Post
    G'Day fellas.
    No reply from Juddy, so can anyone please advise if there is an AlliSport Intercooler retailer in Australia?
    I'd like t fit it and an uprated exhaust prior to purchasing my caravan later this month.
    Thanks for any advice and best wishes.
    Ken
    I purchased the intercooler and hoses from Bell Auto Services in the UK, along with a remap kit because I'm a big kid at heart. Definitely not cheap, but still worthwhile in my opinion.

    I didn't consider upgrading the exhaust at all. I wasn't convinced it was a worthwhile upgrade, and I remember reading various posts about it not making a rat's butt of difference anyway (apart from making noise and emptying your wallet).

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    GDay Kogvos.
    Re the exhaust, I was thinking about getting an upgraded one fitted first. Probably not 3 inch, but a bit narrower. I thought that getting the gasses flowing more efficiently out of the engine would be benifitial in prep for the uprated intercooler and new map.
    Staging the mods as my wallet allows. Im really interested in your comments re the exhaust mod effacacy for the 2.2 Puma.
    Dwayne at MR Automotive in Brisbane was very proactive in supplying details and cost on all the mods mentioned above as well as EGR mods etc, so I may end up going to him next time Im down Brisbane.
    I want to help my engine out as much as posible due to my Defender being a towing vehicle (2400kg van).
    Best wishes mate.
    Ken
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    Defender:LS3 6.2 V8 and 6 Speed Auto, ARB BP51 shocks, springs, Damper, Gwyn Lewis running gear, Superior Engineering Radius arms, Long Ranger tank, Recaros', Dual battery, LED lighting, ARB Lockers etc etc.

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    Hi Ken - I'll clarify straight away that I'm no exhaust or mechanical expert, merely an "over-active enthusiast"! Any comment about exhausts is gleaned from reading and speaking to other people, and the consistent thing that seemed to resonate with me was that exhaust upgrades weren't a particularly good return on investment in a Defender. I'm also not at all interested in performance upgrades in my Defender; for my needs, it's all about touring and reliability so this "logic" sounded reasonable to me (although I have just added an ECU re-map, this was more a guilty pleasure than something I really needed or wanted).

    I would also clarify that I have none of the travelling/towing requirements you have. Apart from a shed-load of recovery gear (light-hearted poke at my other thread) I carry nothing more than the barest of basics when travelling (not even a fridge), and nothing that won't fit inside my 90 (including three people). Therefore I assume my needs differ greatly from yours.

    If you've been speaking with someone you trust (and I've only just today heard another good comment about MR in Brisbane) then I would rely far more on that than my opinion. Your staged approach sounds sensible... similar to me but with different desires and outcomes.

    Finally, regarding your thought process (getting gas out is better for the engine), this has long been my opinion as well, but I come from a long line of supercharged petrol V8 genital-wavers so stuff about diesel is all new to me and I now recognise I know sweet f-all in reality.

    I similarly wish you all the best, and will heartily wave when we cross paths.

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    I'm totally confused about the exhaust.I want to get the bigger IC but thought a better exhaust to exit the gases would make sense before you go forcing more fuel in, everyone has an opinion on the subject. A lot of people remove everything from the catalytic convertor(which would be a good thing albeit illegal)back, which would remove back pressure completely,which ,traditionally is not desirable.Others say reducing back pressure causes the turbo to overspool. Whole systems of straight-through exhausts are available from the UK,so is there some advantage to doing this? Like I said,confused

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    Exhausts

    It certainly is a dark art isnt it fellas!
    I think one recent video test of both stock exhaust vs modded exhaust, then modded ECU was made by Roo Systems in Brisbane. Their real world testing showed valuble gains in HP, torque and lower EG temp, with the uprated exhaust. Dyno then verified it. This was of course ina Tojo 200.
    Who knows what is best for our vehicles?, mine being the 2.2.
    Best wishes fellas.
    Ken
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    Defender:LS3 6.2 V8 and 6 Speed Auto, ARB BP51 shocks, springs, Damper, Gwyn Lewis running gear, Superior Engineering Radius arms, Long Ranger tank, Recaros', Dual battery, LED lighting, ARB Lockers etc etc.

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    A quick look at the Bowler Motorsports Defender exhausts, we see the catalyst is kept but the rest is 3". ?600 anyone

    Note
    The 170 hp has standard exhaust
    THE 195 HP has the turbo and exhaust

    So at our level of tune, STD is fine
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
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    Guys,

    I have a 2.2 110. Engine mods as follows:
    -egr closed on computer and also blanked
    - intercooler
    -snorkel, good for cooler air intake as well as wading
    -decat dump pipe.
    - rear muffler removed and center muffler left on.
    - alive tune through bruce davis performance

    I hear you ask why leave the centre muffler?
    Well l emailed alive tuning in the UK for their opinion. It was as follows:

    A completely free flowing exhuat although benefial in 90% of cases is not ideal in the puma due to its vgt turbo setup. It could potentially overapool and ultimately lead to turbo failures. Therefore keeping the centre muffler helps retain some back pressure to avoid turbo overspool.
    The bowler defenders use a 3 inch system but retain catalytic conveter and mufflers hence keeping some back pressure in the system.

    I find that the decat with rear muffler removed offers excellent turbo reaponse and torque with a meaty mid range.

    My tune currently pulls around 170hp and 450nm. Thats pretty good for a 2.2 diesel i reckon

    Hope that helps gents

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    Most factory exhausts are a compromise between cost, performance and noise reduction. I've put cost first because usually the accountant wins.

    Back-pressure is a funny thing, particularly where there is a turbo involved and it's a diesel. But the basic principles are the same as a petrol engine.

    Too much back-pressure can strangle the engine. Too little and you start to impact torque output. Most aftermarket systems leave the standard DPF or catalytic converter in place - regardless of the diameter of the new system - in order to maintain some back pressure in the system.

    But my opinion (right or wrong) is that they probably don't swap these out due to the cost v benefit of a high flow unit and the potential emissions impact.

    It's always about the $$.

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