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Thread: Fabricated 4WD Diffs based on the Ford 9"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJT View Post
    John, thought you might be interested in this extract from the QLD gov infrastructure site.

    "4.2.11 Off-Road and Goods Vehicle Wheel Track
    The wheel track of off-road four wheel drive vehicles and goods vehicles (MC, NA, NB ADR
    category) must not be increased by more than 50mm beyond the maximum specified by the
    vehicle manufacturer for the particular model.
    If a solid axle from another manufacturer is used, the wheel track may be increased by 50mm
    beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer for that particular axle, provided all
    other requirements such as clearances and the tyres do not protruding outside of the vehicle
    bodywork.
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    Thank you Sir

    You have made my day, nay month.

    I had previously downloaded their documents when they were released, and again as recently as a few weeks ago.

    The part of your quote that I highlighted in red, was not part of those documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJT View Post
    John, thought you might be interested in this extract from the QLD gov infrastructure site.

    "4.2.11 Off-Road and Goods Vehicle Wheel Track
    The wheel track of off-road four wheel drive vehicles and goods vehicles (MC, NA, NB ADR
    category) must not be increased by more than 50mm beyond the maximum specified by the
    vehicle manufacturer for the particular model.
    If a solid axle from another manufacturer is used, the wheel track may be increased by 50mm
    beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer for that particular axle, provided all
    other requirements such as clearances and the tyres do not protruding outside of the vehicle
    bodywork."
    Unfortunately that extract "4.2.11" is from the National Code of Practice, Section LS.

    Although QLD has adopted the NCOP, as far as I can tell they have provisions to be read in conjunction with the NCOP. These have specifically excluded the last part concerning a solid axle from another manufacturer.

    So I'm afraid I'm back where I was, and the track can only be increased by 50mm from that specified by the vehicle manufacturer (i.e. Land Rover, not the manufacturer of the axle.

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    John,

    I went back and had a look and noticed the same thing.

    The clause that I quoted was out of VSB14, whereas the NCOP for QLD appears to have removed that clause.

    Having said all of that, the engineer I have been talking to was happy to approve, engineer, mod plate for the axle substitution and +50mm offset and +50mm tyre size over that of the substituted axle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    I suspect for the studs you'll be constrained by the D60 side of things.

    Up there Buds Customs is who I'd contact.
    After a little bit of research last night it looks like somewhere along the lines Jeep could have possibly run a 5 x 4.5 stud pattern and it would seem that this may be able to work with D60 stuff and 35 spline axles, however not as a full floater.

    I will see about contacting Buds in a few weeks time as i would be interested in getting the housings done by them.

    I know for the one of the Hilux SAS swaps they did, the axle tubes was something like 12mm thick

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    Dana 44 came in 5 x 4.5

    Dana 60 comes as small as 5 x 5.5

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    So your doing all this just to run a 33????

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    Quote Originally Posted by def-90 View Post
    So your doing all this just to run a 33????
    That is exactly what I have been thinking......maybe for 38's..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by def-90 View Post
    So your doing all this just to run a 33????
    Stardard rover diffs are barely capable with stardard 29" tyres . Nothing wrong with over engineering , And yes i do belive in a fuse

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    With 32" I must of wasted my time and money

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    Yes 33's on road, but 33's legally engineered on a D2 plus a min 100 - 150mm increase in wheel track.

    Also, if going full float I can still drive if I break an axle or CV and need to remove it etc instead of the wheel falling off.

    The diffs will outlast the disco, endless diff ratio options etc and will get used under something else if the disco dies...

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