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  1. #21
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    Nigel,

    That's cool but seems a bit like black magic to me :P. Do you mean that since retaining the rear spring it's flexed an extra 35mm?

    Surely you've changed other stuff like gone to flexy coils, or changed your control arms as well as retained them?

    Cheers, wicks

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patchy View Post
    My thoughts are the same and I understand that the tyre thats dislocated wont have much force on it and will try to spin but still better than 2 feet on the air im looking at fitted ATB's front and rear so this small amount of traction should be enough to engage it in theory and when its not tracation control should help the rest...



    also thanks ill have a look at the gwynn lewis gear seems to get good reveiws.



    Cheers Brian

    Not how it works..

    2 feet on the ground may be more stable - but NOT when dislocated.

    That's like both feet on the ground and a broken knee on one leg!

    Cones are a stop gap fix for mediocre suspension design.

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    Landrover surely didn't have 12" shocks etc in mind when they designed the suspension, meaning the springs are not ideal located for long travel set-ups.

    My preferred method would be to cut, shut & raise (say 50mm) the rear upper spring mounts so longer (& retained) springs could be installed, without the commensurate increase in ride height.

    This means pulling off the body and welding up the chassis, which is all doable, but probably only really going to happen when a lot of other things need doing under there.

    The object is too keep the rotational stiffness of the F&R axle's similar, ride height gain minimal for the travel and maximum droop


    Clive

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    Cheers for the help everyone and some good advice in the end I change my setup a bit and am now going to be running the X-Eng X-Spring in the rear and cones on the front for anyone interested the x-springs delivered to my door dont come in the cheapest at $440 but you get that sometimes... at the moment I have the front all fitted up with the cones and rear spring are retained at the mo until I get a present from the post man.

    Just on a side note I've got longer brake lines but have been looking for ABS wiring extensions only thing I can find is a disco 2 set my guess is this will be the same as a td5 defender but can anyone confirm that b4 I purchase a set.

    Cheers Brian

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    [QUOTE=

    In short - dislocating coils are for RTI ramp queens. You won't see dislocating suspension on a serious offroad competition vehicle.[/QUOTE]

    These guys seem to do OK....

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Twins...7137?pnref=lhc

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1gkqXNJ2fo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1gkqXNJ2fo[/ame]

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    One things for sure... They can't drive for ****

    Watched in slow motion, they have a cone or internal bump stop, but I suggest as a precaution rather than articulation - because those very soft coils they're running don't appear to dislocate at all...

    Found a 2nd video, they get a little dislocation, but appear to be binding up as they approach max.

    Those vehicles are over heavy and unstable anyway with the stupid lift...

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    Cheers
    Slunnie


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    That's a lot of Disco2!!!! Big tyres for LandRover axles!
    Cheers
    Slunnie


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