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Thread: S2 ute body on RRC chassis... doable?

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    S2 ute body on RRC chassis... doable?

    Contemplating the idea of a Series landy ute body on an RRC chassis.

    Anyone here done one before, and if so, any gotchas? just curious if it's doable or 'don't bother-able'

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    Yep. Doable.

    I have a S3 Stage 1 cab on a RRC chassis.

    If you want to keep the V8 and LT95, You'd have to move the grill forward and enlarge the transmission tunnel.

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    Doable with the right Rangie if you have the time and dollars. I believe you'll need to start with a pre '85 RRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    Doable with the right Rangie if you have the time and dollars. I believe you'll need to start with a pre '85 RRC.
    Bugger. my rrc is 91.

    If it's just relocating a body mount etc, not really concerned. But if there is a significant difference, then I will need to learn.

    I'm giving this thought as a body has come up nearby, and while it's not great, it would be significantly quicker to clean up and respray than to do the rust repairs on RRC cowl and find replacement doors.

    obviously won't be cheaper, but I do like series landies, and I like coil springs and disc brakes.

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    The key criterion is, if you want to it on the road, it has to meet the ADRs of the date of the chassis. Which means, to use a S2a body (no padded dash, protruding hinges) early seventies. If you use a S3 body, mid eighties.
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    There is a fellow who put a S2a cab on a Defender chassis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercguy View Post
    Bugger. my rrc is 91.

    If it's just relocating a body mount etc, not really concerned. But if there is a significant difference, then I will need to learn.
    As John said, it's about ADR's so you wouldn't get a 91 through with the older body on it. I was thinking series 3 when I said mid 80's but as John points out, you could do a Series 2a with an early 70's Rangie.
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    I've had two detailed but brief conversations with local VSCCS certifying engineers here and the consensus is that it is absolutely possible to certify.

    The caveats are in relation to the ADR's being met for the 91 chassis. It may be as simple as checking the vehicle occupant movement swing-arcs and modifying the seat belt mounting points, possible seat relocation, and some external signal lamp requirements along with removing the external series 2 lug type door hinges, and using defender ones.

    So overall the modifications do not appear to be insurmountable at this stage, but futher details of the specific ADR's and some interior measurements need to be taken.

    I'm all for maintaining the safety level of the later vehicle, but some of the vehicle-specific contextual data needs to be clarified first on each body to ascertain if it's viable ($$$$).

    Some further research regarding specific ADR details is required and while it doesn't appear to be as difficult as some may think - the key is the ADR requirements are applied to both vehicles in different editions, so the later ADR's as implemented on the 91 as well as any superceeded but non-compliant AVSR's need to be met.

    Ultimately the task doesn't sound ridiculous, but it was mentioned anecdotally by both engineers, that NSW rms are particularly adept at finding excuses to not certify - even on highly documented ICV builds.

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    I saw an old series of shows on Foxtell a few weeks ago, were the bloke put a late 90 body onto a RRC chassic. The biggest problem he started with was the RRC has a 100 inch wheel base. So he made the rear body longer to suit.
    He did a lot of other modifications to get the v8 to fit but it looked good when finished.

    Just depends on how keen you are ?

    It is probably easier to import a coiler 90 from England but it depends what you really want.

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    So it's coming down to economics.

    After further detailed investigation, the main issue is not mechanical, but rather the chasm of differences between S2 and 91 RRC ADR's.
    and mostly the 'interior'.

    So the big gripe - i.e. wishing to keep the simplicity of the S2 ute and interior etc in tact, is basically completely moot.

    The measurements for swinging arc are what creates the issue. To effectively remove all of it from the equation means modifying the cab rear bulkhead, shifting it rearward, which then means modifying the top etc etc, plus still installing the collapsible column, the later 110 dash and a few other things.

    So by my calculation, it would be cheaper to offload the RRC and purchase a 110/perentie and then perform the 'comfort pack' upgrade.

    So I'm not convinced it's financially feasible, given the philosophy was to obtain a series 2 109 ute and perform the bodywork on it, then do the drivetrain swap.

    Still going to have some more discussions with the VSCCS engineers, and work out what the definitive stumbling blocks will be.

    I have also thought about going another way and chopping the RRC, but there's nothign wrong with the RRC's rear other than the upper tailgate corner rust.... easily fixable with some time (which I don't have right now).

    Working on it!

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