BROCK OR WHINCUP?

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Originally Posted by uninformed

what car did Perkins/Brock race?

Did Larry race a Ferrari there back in the day?

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ok, I have a few auto books and remembered reading a pic with a "Larry Perkins" driving a Ferrari GTO at Le mans or such. It appears this one was from the USA, not Aus...

Just dont tell Frank that Carroll Shelby wanted a Chev V8 in the Cobra first :D

This gave me a chuckle. Remember what todays date is.

Legends behind the wheel for Bathurst

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Originally Posted by Debacle

This gave me a chuckle. Remember what todays date is.

Legends behind the wheel for Bathurst

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i hate the 1st of april :)

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Originally Posted by Clarkey

Brock also raced a BMW in the early 70s at Spa, Larry raced some real ****ty F1 cars including the story of tearing a whole car down on a tarp after practice and rebuilding it to qualifying the best the car ever had.

But, the only driver to have ever won the world drivers championship and constructors championship in a car of his own design with a substantially smaller budget was our own Sir Jack Brabham in the Repco-Brabham.......think the is some family history somewhere between the Repco engine and V8 LandRover engines......2nd cousins maybe?

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No relation actually,urban myth.Google repco brabham v8

Keep dreaming Frank. As I said designed does not mean original or new. The FX and FJ were a scaled down chev, but a lot of the design work was done in Australia to suit Australian conditions and buit on a chassis designed by Holden. Everyone knows GM bought Holden Coach builders that is nothing new. My Grandfather used to actually work for Holden Coach builders during this transition in Adelaide. I never siad they did not have help or borrowed from others. All of them did. If it makes you happy to believe XAas on were a complete new design then keep on thinking that, that is fine with me.

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Originally Posted by Tank

Well you have just proved my statement re: your knowledge, Quote: "Holdens not Australian designed, they all were, from the FX through",
Recent Doco on Foxtel showing the GM history in Australia and how they bought out a coach builder, Holden (BTW 30 years after Ford built their factory here), the original holden was designed in America, by Americans and slightly modified by a pommy who was sent out here to whip us Socialist/communists Aussies into line. Maybe you should check your facts before you put your foot in your mouth.
The XA,XB, XC shape Ford Falcons were designed in the mid 60's by Ford Australia's design office, the Yanks actually copied some of the Ford Aust. designs.
Now for a lesson on chev and ford engines, Ford released the OHV Y Block (272, 292, 312) in 1954, chev introduced it's small block a year or two later, Both engines had similar heads, Siamese inlet ports each end of the head, Siamese exhaust ports in the middle of the head and one port each end, with the dissy at the rear of the block.
Ford dropped this engine in passenger cars in 57/58, chev carried on with it's small block, Ford introduced the FE Ford Big Block in 58, a "Y" block, this engine was used up till the mid 70's, available in 332,352,390, 406, 410, 428 and 427 cu.in. sizes, the 427 Side oiler (cross bolted mains) FE went on to dominate Ferrari at Le mans, winning 4 years in a row, also used by Carroll Shelby in Cobras, this engine was a dominant force in Nascar as well and in SOHC form powered the first dragster to break the 6 second barrier.
The 289 (Windsor) was developed in the early 60's, it had a block with the crank pan rail level with the centreline of the crank, it started as a 221, 260, then 289, 302, and a 351. The head design had 4 equally spaced inlet ports, with equal length runners and 4 equally spaced exhaust ports, the bore was (289) 4", stroke was 2.87" and it was common for these engines to rev into the 10,000rpm in race trim. This engine was the basis for the quad cam engines that took over Indy racing, Offenhauser were 168 cu. in. engines and blown, they (owners of Offys) complained that Ford should not be allowed to blow their engines with their (Ford) larger capacity V8's, So blown engines were not to be more than 168 cu.in., So Ford reduced their engines to 168 and put 2 turbos on and produced 900bhp and still beat all comers. This engine went on to become the most winningest Formula 1 engine of all time.
Now the latest chev engines have (LS1 etc.)"Y" blocks, Cross bolted mains, Hi-Port heads (like Fords 427 Hi-Riser heads), equally spaced inlet and exhaust ports, like Ford have had since the 60's. The 5 litre chev (not Holden) that winchup is driving has canted valves and equal length port runners, just like the Ford 5 litre, derived from the Boss 302, which was a Windsor block with Cleveland heads. So chev has been the follower and Ford the innovater and leader, and no amount of your so called facts can dispute this, take the latest offerings from chev and Ford, chev has a LS1 type engine with OHV's, 2 Valves /cyl. copied from 60's Fords and a cross-bolted "Y" block also copied from a 60's Ford. On the other hand Ford have an all alloy block (Y block with 6 bolt mains) with DOHC heads/4 valves per cyl, with factory supercharging and have had this family of engines for over 20 years, Long Live Ford, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by gossamer

I was a Holden fan (more enjoy the drivers these days) but this has to be up their as one of the sexiest cars
ALLAN MOFFAT'S 1969 TRANS AM MUSTANG | BOWDEN'S OWN car

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Another wicked looking car was the 1984 VK day-glo marlboro commodore as far as i know one of them ended up in a collection in the UK no idea what happened to the other one. any one know where these cars ended up?

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Keep dreaming Frank. As I said designed does not mean original or new. The FX and FJ were a scaled down chev, but a lot of the design work was done in Australia to suit Australian conditions and buit on a chassis designed by Holden. Everyone knows GM bought Holden Coach builders that is nothing new. My Grandfather used to actually work for Holden Coach builders during this transition in Adelaide. I never siad they did not have help or borrowed from others. All of them did. If it makes you happy to believe XAas on were a complete new design then keep on thinking that, that is fine with me.

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Well see you've got it totally wrong again, watch that Doco and you will see that the holden was designed wholly by americans, and the biggest boo-boo, holden didn't have a chassis, they were a Uni-Body construction, as far as XA's on it is Fine with the Australian designers as well, I will get their names for you and you can tell them they didn't design these cars.
You really seem to have a problem with absorbing facts that don't tally with your ideas/fantasies, I have proved Ford has been copied by Chev, engines and even body styling, compare a 54 Customline with the archaic 54 Chev, and in 1956, supposedly Chevs best ever car was outsold by Ford, so why don't you quit while you're behind, LOL, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by disco man

Another wicked looking car was the 1984 VK day-glo marlboro commodore as far as i know one of them ended up in a collection in the UK no idea what happened to the other one. any one know where these cars ended up?

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either Bowdens or the museum at the the track in Bathurst.

Peter was a natural driver he could drive anything. But he had no input skills. Give him a car and he could drive it. Moffat was not a natural driver. For him it was hard work. But he could set up a car like no one else. He could tell the difference of 1 psi in tyre pressure. Moffat was faster than Brock. In the car they ran in Europe. I worked as a mechanic for Moffat in 1977 and 1978.