Thread: BROCK OR WHINCUP?

Do we reckon skaife gets a mention in the brock/whincup/lowndes argument? very impressive record and driver in his own right.

Jim Richards Anybody who can drive a Porsche well in the wet gets my vote

Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner

Jim Richards Anybody who can drive a Porsche well in the wet gets my vote

Ah yes gentleman Jim absolute legend raced through the 70s, 80s, 90s and still very competitive today and also raced a huge variety of cars all types all over the world

Geeze i'm glad i'm not a ford or holden fan.Brock was good in his day against the other drivers of his day.How much money played a part i'll let the fanatics argue that one.We always seem to think our heros were better than any of the current crop of sports people,but you can't compare them.Too many variables.Personly i cheer on lowndes,then whincup.No particular reason.

Off topic again,
I love the story in Jackie Stewarts, in his autoBio, pulled up by the Italian police fanging a Ferrari, " Who do you think you are Fangio ?" REPLY,JS points to passenger, " No that would be him"

Hmmm brock, Lowndes, D.J., Rusty,... Oh and one more.. Larry, Larry, Larry,..... seriously, what Larry Perkins did with a 308 and 5 stud wheels while everyone else was running small Blocks and center lok hubs is pretty bloody impressive, no bull**** no excuses just says it likes it is

Originally Posted by Kev the Fridgy

Hmmm brock, Lowndes, D.J., Rusty,... Oh and one more.. Larry, Larry, Larry,..... seriously, what Larry Perkins did with a 308 and 5 stud wheels while everyone else was running small Blocks and center lok hubs is pretty bloody impressive, no bull**** no excuses just says it likes it is

Larry was a great driver at all levels from Formula Vee to the top, but his exceptional engineering was the reason he was doing this. His interpretation of the rule and implantation of these rules in the development of most notably inlet ports was a marvel. Centre locks.... Well, he just didn't trust them.

My opinion is that Brocky was a better driver over Whincup. I've been watching Whincup race since he was a junior karter and he is still definitely a natural driver of the highest calibre who mixes it with the best.

Brock on the other hand is from a different era. I have no doubt the racing is just as competitive then and now although parity issues were a factor back then in the "group" days and sometimes it was good for Brock and somedays not. The thing is, a drivers competitive career builds, peaks and declines. They all do it, but in Brocks day they only raced a handful of races each year plus bathurst, and a race meeting was 1 race. Brocks competitive career spanned a lot of years, something that is required for that number of wins. Today you can get 3 months worth of old school wins in a weekend and require almost no mechanical empathy apart from keeping it going - mind you this may change with COTF, the way panels and doors fall of them. Also,in Brocks time the driver had to be not only an excellent racer, but also an excellent test driver to develop a car that had no or minimal telemetry that let the chassis engineers know what to do before the car has even come back into the pits.

Keeping in mind that comparisons between Whincup and Brock are based on relativity between them and their peers of their era and rather than saying Brocks peers were weak, I would argue that actually Brock was a more complete driver who experienced exceptional competitive longevity compared to any of his peers.