Ford to quit V8 Supercars at end of 2015

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Originally Posted by timax

How many Falcons or Commodores are exported?
If they were better than the opposition they would sell but they are not.
Plain and simple.
We can argue all day but the rest off the world seems to disagree with you.The same argument is probably happening in America where most of their cars only sell to the local market.

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Ford US would not allow the Falcon to be exported. Holden exported Commodores to the Middle East,North America,Uk. So for the price,size,features,performance, in a full size sedan not a mid sized what is better on the market than a Falcon or Commodore?

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Originally Posted by d2dave

As for racing V6's they would be too slow for what race fans want. Would be very boring.

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Thats pretty funny.:D
Have a look at some BTCC vids on youtube and you will see that even 4 cyl can be fast.

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Originally Posted by timax

How many Falcons or Commodores are exported?

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I don't know about the Falcons but wrt the Commodores, they are a word car. They are assembled in Australia and other countries.
Holden export the HSV version to Europe. When we produced the Monaro here, before production was moved to America, we exported them to America.
Not a lot of anything is exported nowdays, except for raw resources. The Ausie dollar is too high.

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Originally Posted by timax

Thats pretty funny.:D
Have a look at some BTCC vids on youtube and you will see that even 4 cyl can be fast.

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I don't think a 2L Honda Civic would be pushing 299kph down conrod.

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Originally Posted by disco man

I don't think a 2L Honda Civic would be pushing 299kph down conrod.

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No your right there Disco Man. Thats damn quick but who really cares about top speed? Most of the fans will hang around the corners and thats where the lighter cars are quicker.
Was just having a look back at old race data and its amazing to see that Jim Richards in the Skyline back in 1991 set an average of 158kph over 161 laps.
It wasnt until 2010 before that was beaten and its only been beaten 3 times.
No wonder the ford and Holden fans hated the thing. Imagine if they used the new one!! ;)

Only winding you up now :)

Some FPR news.

Sparks to fly over fifth FPR Falcon for 2015 - Speedcafe

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Originally Posted by nismine01

When the 500 mile race started at Philip Island (now at Bathurst and 1,000 kilometers long) it was open to all makes and several classes, speed differential and safety are reasons for it's change along with someone buying the 'rights' to it.

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I started watching the Armstrong and followed through the Hardie-Ferodo years and 1000 km length but never knew it started at Phillip Island, shows to go you! :)

It lost me when it moved from production cars to the V8 supercar format.

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Originally Posted by timax

Was just having a look back at old race data and its amazing to see that Jim Richards in the Skyline back in 1991 set an average of 158kph over 161 laps.
It wasnt until 2010 before that was beaten and its only been beaten 3 times.
No wonder the ford and Holden fans hated the thing. Imagine if they used the new one!! ;)

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He did have a massive advantage driving an all wheel drive vehicle.

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Originally Posted by d2dave

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Who wants to see a Nisson or Merc win Bathurst.

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Personally I want to see a Volvo win. They are the only ones running a motor that has made it past the stone age. (And it sounds so much better too... )

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Originally Posted by timax

No your right there Disco Man. Thats damn quick but who really cares about top speed? Most of the fans will hang around the corners and thats where the lighter cars are quicker.
Was just having a look back at old race data and its amazing to see that Jim Richards in the Skyline back in 1991 set an average of 158kph over 161 laps.
It wasnt until 2010 before that was beaten and its only been beaten 3 times.
No wonder the ford and Holden fans hated the thing. Imagine if they used the new one!! ;)

Only winding you up now :)

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The Nissan that you refer to was the most complex saloon car ever raced in Australia. It was unbeatable, and remember it was "hobbled".
If that car had continued to be developed, modern day V8 Supercars would not keep up with it either.
Gibson Motorsport did a mighty job with those cars, they were the fastest of their type in the world.
Pickles.