Who is funding IS?

Damink,...thanks for your reply.
I agree that "rebels" & "isis" can be, & is, a "confusing" statement when it come to what is happening in Syria.
Who is who, who is a rebel, who is Isis, who is for Assad, what is Russia & the U.S. doing etc etc, is to me enormously confusing.
I have also heard before how the U.S. originally armed Iraq, Iran etc etc,...I've heard all that before, and much of it is undoubtedly true.
However, that is MASSIVELY different to what you're now saying, "The U.S. is funding Isis". I simply don't believe it.
So, like I said, if you can explain to me, that would be good.
Pickles.

What do you want me to explain?

Why they do it?
How they do it?
When did they start doing it?

To simply ask to explain is not enough info.

You said they DONT and its absolute nonsense.
Yet i gave you one quote to suggest otherwise. What exactly makes it absolute nonsense? Because you dont believe or do you have facts to support that?

Did you bother to investigate that quote at all?


As to who is who. That is simple.
They are whoever they want to be in order to get what they want.
Like recently one was a refugee only to later be a terrorist.
What about the isis fighters they have captured that are dressed as woman?
What about the isis fighters who dont wear war gear and normal clobber. The moment they claim to be rebels and not isis they are.
See its all just words. ISIS and rebels. Means the same thing over in syria depending on who they are talking too and what they want as an outcome.
ISIS is not a state yet every chance they get they call it a state.
I personally think in a deliberate attempt to confuse the public. Reality is the rebels are isis. Most of them anyway. At one point or another.

Your first three points will do me just fine......"How, Why, & when"?
A simple description & explanation, to the point, in laymans terms of these, would be good.
Pickles.

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Your first three points will do me just fine......"How, Why, & when"?
A simple description & explanation, to the point, in laymans terms of these, would be good.
Pickles.

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In laymans terms.

How? I gave you a 500 mill example. Thats layman enough. Although you seem to have neglected to see that.
Why? I suspect to instill fear in the public for some other agenda. Some speculate its to allow for tighter controls on the public. I dunno about that. Beyond that i can only speculate as this is still unfolding. In time the reasoning will be clear i suspect as all of the yanks nasty ways end up public.
Its not to kill all infidels i can tell ya that. Wonder why so few missions are carried out daily? I sure as hell do. I guess you could send obama an email and ask him?
When. NOW. But i suspect from the time of the iraq invasion.

Layman enough?

"A 500 mill example"?.....Please explain,
To date you've explained absolutely nothing to justify your claim that "The U.S. is funding Isis". Perhaps that is because,.......they aren't.
Like Bob said, look at his video,.... the contents of which make absolute sense to me.
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by Pickles2

"A 500 mill example"?.....Please explain,
To date you've explained absolutely nothing to justify your claim that "The U.S. is funding Isis". Perhaps that is because,.......they aren't.
Like Bob said, look at his video,.... the contents of which make absolute sense to me.
Pickles.

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Then you go ahead and believe Bobs post.
Search the net for the 500 mill obama spent. Dont rely on me. You will just say im wrong.
Not sure why you asked me when your views are one eyed.
Before you do though.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=a...a+funding+isis
Go there and read some info there. Not my websites. Just stuff on the interwebs.
Might find some of that interesting.
Before i leave this to others i will leave you with this.

"General Wesley Kanne Clark, Sr., former Supreme Allied commander of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during the war against Yugoslavia and presidential candidate, revealed recently on CNN that the Islamic State (ISIS) was ?funded by our friends and allies in order to fight Hezbollah."

Dont believe me. How about listen to others. He is but ONE of many.
He only suggests its funded by friends and allies but its actually deeper than that.
Would it be safe to say his statement contradicts the video you rely on for your knowledge?

Damink, I asked you to explain to me, & you have been unable to do so.
How things originally "got started" in many instances is invariably a lot different to the way things end up/are now,.....Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, have all changed of recent times, as have the combatants.
No matter what the roots of Isis or any other "group" are, and yes, there are plenty of reasons why these groups form, sometimes with the backing of the U.S.,....but also Russia, China, Iran etc etc,.....these groups form & they evolve into something totally different to when they were concieved.
Isis is frighteningly, relatively new, Actually I don't know who was responsible for its formation, but it sure as hell wasn't the U.S....and nor are they funding it.
Damunk, I find it strange that no other members find this interesting enough to contribute?......but at least this discussion has proven that if members who totally disagree can disagree with respect, a reasonable discussion is still possible,.......without it being banished to C.A.!
Regards, Pickles.

I'm confused. Did I get this out of context? Apologise if I have.

"America is funding Isis. Thats my guess.
Much like they did during the Iran v Iraq war"

This may clear some of the confusion up.

https://www.quora.com/How-did-ISIS-f...did-ISIS-begin

And this may frighten you.

What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic