Thread: Consequences of climate change we may not have considered

It's bizarre Bob, that this thread which points to a looming crisis which will effect us all, can go un notices. While at the same time there is much concern over weather someone might be getting something for nothing or worse, nothing for something.

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

It's bizarre Bob, that this thread which points to a looming crisis which will effect us all, can go un notices. While at the same time there is much concern over weather someone might be getting something for nothing or worse, nothing for something.

Yep, funny cattle, some of our members. I'll leave it at that.

One of the issues with this subject is, if you object or show that MMCC is not real and it is a natural cycle, you will get attacked and abused... So why discuss something that you will be condemned for saying...

Originally Posted by Wraithe

One of the issues with this subject is, if you object or show that MMCC is not real and it is a natural cycle, you will get attacked and abused... So why discuss something that you will be condemned for saying...

My experience is, the ones who get attacked and abused, are those who say it is real. I believe science over self styled experts.

It's quite simple really. If you take carbon out of the ground and put it back into the atmosphere where it came from, you will get the same climate that was there when the carbon was at the same level. You can call it cyclical if you want but it will still bite us all on the arse.

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

It's quite simple really. If you take carbon out of the ground and put it back into the atmosphere where it came from, you will get the same climate that was there when the carbon was at the same level. You can call it cyclical if you want but it will still bite us all on the arse.

And when the permafrost heats up enough to release carbon, as it is , what then?

Originally Posted by bob10

And when the permafrost heats up enough to release carbon, as it is , what then?

The Russians have invented a way to keep Permafrost frozen. As climate change is melting it already, and the Trans Siberian Railway began to wander all over the place. They put big steel poles full of Ammonia all along each side. Convection in the Ammonia keeps the buried part of the poles frozen as well as the ground around. I dare say it would take a lot of poles to do the entire Permafrost so I guess it won't be too long before we feel the effects.

You see there is one thing about man, they think they control everything and the earth is the centre of the universe, sadly we are not the centre of anything except our own ego's..
Carbon dioxide is removed from our atmosphere by solar winds yet when the solar wind slows, the co2 continues... co2 is also released by volcano's too, absorbed by phyto plankton, etc etc...
The title, consequences we may not have considered, is a good one... too much heat, bull, plants dont grow in cold temperatures, they struggle to survive... this year I had the best growth in the paddocks for about 10 years yet the experts say its our worst, funny how most farmers I know are revelling this year...
But what have we not considered, I can say one thing that I here very little said and that is plastics, they consume a huge amount of oil and are not recyclable(re usable yes) and they dont break down to nothing or there original product, they destroy the planet and few notice or say anything, they are all on the climate change wagon, yet climate change is very natural, we just think we control this planet and we are battling to control ourselves...
If you own a landrover, then consider this, pour used diesel sump oil around a tree and watch it bloom, if you havent tried it, you will think I'm nuts, but so are the IPCC...