What the Hijab means to Muslim women

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Bob, you're a learned individual.. have you read the books?

Nothing radical about my statement... it's what the books say that is to the radical end..

There isn't room in them for interpretation so people pick and choose the mild parts where they see fit and ignore what the book(s).

Christianity and Islam both have specific treatment of certain "sins".... the books are very clear...

Just a quick example: Lev. 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Now to be VERY CLEAR - I have NO problems what choices people make...

But the Book - it's pretty bloody clear on how it should be played out.... Mild? Nope...

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No one I know would take it that literally. Not even the Micks. But I get your point. Those sort of books should not be taken as instruction manuals.It's like having a Haynes manual, RAVE, and your own experience , and going with the Haynes alone. That's a thought, who would be the radicals in the Land Rover religion.

I'll answer my own question, it just came to me. Defender drivers of course. And they wear a distinctive uniform, old hat, beard, and tanned right elbow.And a practised disdain for lesser mortals, driving discoveries. And those heretics driving Japanese cars, don't even get a wave.

What's quite sad is that the Quran is very peaceful in the front end... and very violent in the later sections..

A passage that states that any statement made after previous statements on a subject overwrites the former...

If the peaceful section was all it was it would be a very gentle belief system.. as it stands it's very aggressive..

Similarly passages of the Bible (although not linear as the Quran) are gentle and others more violent...

Christianity has certainly butchered the texts to suit causes and situations over time with some treated as literal and others a metaphor- interestingly all depending on how the person using them needs to manipulate a situation.

I know not many will run around Stoning people to death nowadays, people generally have evolved.. and laws certainly now frown upon it in most Western cultures....So what is technically/factually right?

Evolved sensibility says we shouldn't run around chucking rocks at people... or beheading infidels... But that is exactly what passages of the "rule books" tell followers to do...

Why is it many people blindly follow the scribbled tales of superstitious old men from 2000+ years ago (or a little later for Mohammed) yet would completely dismiss anyone from 2016 claiming to be a Prophet?

The simple nature of the human mind is that people when confronted with situations they can not explain will make up something to fit the model/situation.

Kids noises under bed - monsters for example..
Santa - brings joy whilst manipulating kids into behaving better..

With Santa, we let the story play out until they realise the ludicrous nature of such a tale.. all the while indoctrinating them each week at a place of worship or a private school....

The difference between a religion and a cult (not all are evil)?
One has tax free status [emoji12]

Oh and Bob,

Thank you for such interesting topics and discussions. I appreciate your point of view..

Cheers

No worries Tombie. BTW, some letters explaining Santa. They explain a few other things as well.

4 Heartwarming Letters to Explain Santa to Your Kids - DIY & Crafts

Thanks Bob, a good read.... and clever on the parts of those parents...

Perhaps a thread on the Pagan ritual of December is in order for more fun discussion... [emoji12]

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Thanks Bob, a good read.... and clever on the parts of those parents...

Perhaps a thread on the Pagan ritual of December is in order for more fun discussion... [emoji12]

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You mean the Myer's xmas sale?

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Originally Posted by Tombie

What if it was bloody cold..... then a Balaclava is a sensible idea.. [emoji6]

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Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by rangieman

X2 As the age old saying goes when in Rome do as the Romans do ;) Works for me as pretty much the rest of us id imagine:cool:

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What about when in Greece? :eek:

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Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Fair enough.





What about when in Greece? :eek:

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Solvol [emoji41] - oh... wrong Grease [emoji48]

Tombie. The day you yearn for will come. there was a lot of progress made last Century. This Century is off to a slow start. The old superstitions and bigotry will eventually fade as the world becomes more educated. We'll get there. Hopefully before mankind has outlived it's usefulness and vanishes forever.