Settle down, champion. Didn't say I couldn't deal with it, after all, I was born here.Quote:
Originally Posted by rover-56
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Settle down, champion. Didn't say I couldn't deal with it, after all, I was born here.Quote:
Originally Posted by rover-56
Correct,i have been working out Ipswich way,so its always a bit hotter than Brisbane temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
But you forgot to mention the humidity,its been pretty intense as well.
Yes it is. What gets me is not the daytime temps, but that it has been staying around 30 all night, so there's no relief.
I feel like I'm back in Thailand where we ran the air-con all night. Electricity was a lot cheaper over there.
In Riyadh outside work is halted at 52C .
funnily enough it rarely gets to 52, usually peaking at 51.5.
we used to play tennis at 40c , admittedly low humidity and many bottles of water.
regards Philip A
No worries Bob, not having a go at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob10
I just hear that "Its going to be hotter than ever before" message too many times.
Mostly on the 6 o'clock news.
Cheers,
Terry
(Begin Rant)
The hottest day on record?
Not 2010, BUT 1828 at a blistering 53.9 °C
Back before man-made climate change was frying Australia, when CO2 was around 300ppm, the continent savoured an ideal pre-industrial climate…….. RIGHT?
This is the kind of climate we are spending $10bn per annum to get back to….. Right again?
We are told today’s climate has more records and more extremes than times gone by, but the few records we have from the early 1800’s are eye-popping.
Things were not just hotter, but so wildly hot it burst thermometers.
The earliest temperature records we have show that Australia was a land of shocking heatwaves and droughts, except for when it was bitterly cold or raging in flood.
In other words, nothing has changed, except possibly things might not be quite so hot now!
Silliggy (Lance Pidgeon) has been researching records from early explorers and from newspapers.
What he’s uncovered is fascinating! It’s as if history is being erased!
For all that we hear about recent record-breaking climate extremes, records that are equally extreme, and sometimes even more so, are ignored.
In January 1896 a savage blast “like a furnace” stretched across Australia from east to west and lasted for weeks.
The death toll reached 437 people in the eastern states.
Newspaper reports showed that in Bourke the heat approached 120°F (48.9°C) on three days.
The maximum at or above 102 degrees F (38.9°C) for 24 days straight!
The news reports at the time read ……
1. By Tuesday Jan 14, people were reported falling dead in the streets.
2. Unable to sleep, people in Brewarrina walked the streets at night for hours, thermometers recorded 109°F at midnight.
3. Overnight, the temperature did not fall below 103°F.
4. On Jan 18 in Wilcannia, five deaths were recorded in one day, the hospitals were overcrowdedand reports said that “more deaths are hourly expected”.
5. By January 24, in Bourke, many businesses had shut down (almost everything bar the hotels).
6. Panic stricken Australians were fleeing to the hills in climate refugee trains.
As reported at the time, the government felt the situation was so serious that to save lives and ease the suffering of its citizens they added cheaper train services:
What I found most interesting about this was the skill, dedication and length of meteorological data taken in the 1800′s. When our climate is “the most important moral challenge” why is it there is so little interest in our longest and oldest data?
Who knew that one of the most meticulous and detailed temperature records in the world from the 1800′s comes from Adelaide, largely thanks to Sir Charles Todd.
The West Terrace site in Adelaide was one of the best in the world at the time, and provides accurate historic temperatures from “Australia’s first permanent weather bureau at Adelaide in 1856″.
Rainfall records even appear to go as far back as 1839. Lance Pidgeon went delving into the National Archives and was surprised at what he found.
The media are in overdrive, making out that “the extreme heat is the new normal” in Australia.
The Great Australian Heatwave of January 2013 didn’t push the mercury above 50°C at any weather station in Australia, yet it’s been 50°C (122°F) and hotter in many inland towns across Australia over the past century.
See how many are in the late 1800′s and early to mid 1900′s.
You can’t blame those high records on man-made global warming!
I don't consider myself a climate change "denier" as such, but I do believe that a hell of a lot of taxpayers money is being wasted by barking up the wrong trees, and a lot of people are making a very, very comfortable living keeping the climate change kettle boiling.
Does anyone seriously believe that completely beggaring the Australian economy (what's left of it) is going to make the slightest bit of difference to what is happening? We are literally a drop in the ocean!
Mind you, once we grind to a halt, and can no longer afford welfare for our out-of-work population, at least the refugee crisis may ease off a bit.
(End Rant)
Why is it that every time it is going to get a bit warm in the Cities the media goes into overdrive when in reality the forecast temperatures and the humidity are nowhere near as bad as is what is quite usual in Many inland towns and Minesites and the people there just "Get on with it".
It wasn't a problem 30 odd years ago when air conditioning was considered to be a luxury and most of us either had fans or opened a few windows at night.
We are turning into a Nation of "Pussies" [bigwhistle]
News media love to spread bad news, and memories are short.
"climate change" believers are very good at spreading this kind of news, but there is plenty of information available to balance the hysteria, but it will never be seen on the popular news services.
One source of this info is "Heaven&Earth" by Ian Plimer. Heavy reading but well referenced.
At the moment there is $millions being spent off the coast of Golden Beach, Vic. to find a site to return all that awful CO2 back into the earth.
Scientists I used to work with were rolling on the floor laughing back in 1978 when it was first proposed. That is until they found out about the research funding that was available for it.[smilebigeye]
Cheers,
Terry
And that's it in a nutshell![thumbsupbig]Quote:
Originally Posted by rover-56
There's a big difference between short term trends over even a century and long-term trends over thousands of years. A few incidents don't add up to a long-term trend.Quote:
Originally Posted by donh54
There is also a big difference between weather and climate.
Mind you, I agree we're turning into pussies about the weather. The current hot spell that has people so excited was just normal weather during the three years I lived in Thailand. The minimum in Bangkok was always higher than the maximum in Brisbane. That's why air-con was invented.