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Thread: Eruption at Whakaari/White Island, Bay of Plenty

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    "Yes, it's spoken of , quietly , around the place"


    Indeed!

    Generally in the aftermath of a tragedy - and there in lies the problem!

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    People are showing respect for the families of the deceased, let the proper authorities deal with the investigation.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    People are showing respect for the families of the deceased, let the proper authorities deal with the investigation.
    Please desist with trying to impose your moral/ethical compass on me - it’s offensive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraman View Post
    Please desist with trying to impose your moral/ethical compass on me - it’s offensive!
    You just nailed your colours to the mast. Goodbye.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraman View Post
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    Don’t walk around in the crater of an active volcano!
    I did , a few weeks ago in Nicaragua , a few years in Dominica, and sat back in Bali earlier because I didnt know you could drive right up to the caldera

    I would love to do white island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    I did , a few weeks ago in Nicaragua , a few years in Dominica, and sat back in Bali earlier because I didnt know you could drive right up to the caldera
    I would love to do white island.
    I assume that you were fully aware of the risks and accepted them.

    I don't believe that many, if any, of the 46 people on White Is last Monday were in the same position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraman View Post
    I assume that you were fully aware of the risks and accepted them.

    I don't believe that many, if any, of the 46 people on White Is last Monday were in the same position.
    I'm sure you're correct.
    But, I reckon that once they arrived on the Island, they might have had a few "thoughts". Apparently, even getting of the "launch" at the dilapidated Island "Jetty" was pretty average, and then walking to the crater, people were told to stay on the track, as there were steam jets, hot air, vapour etc etc shooting off all around the track. Never seen it myself of course, and of course once you're there, it's too late for second thoughts.
    My wife has been trying to get me on a cruise, she's a bit of a "thrill seeker", done free fall parachute jumping & other stuff, she said if she'd have been on this cruise, she knows I would not have gone to the Island, but 100% she would have, so I could've been in the same situation as those poor souls who waved their loved ones off the liner, then never to see them alive again,...very very sad.
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    Often we have an assumption, especially in a developed nation, that a commercial operation has done all the risk analysis and the activity is safe. Unfortunately this isn't always the case. I suspect the visitors to White Island weren't informed of the risks which is a tragedy but the operator has being the tours for years and probably became a little complacent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    Often we have an assumption, especially in a developed nation, that a commercial operation has done all the risk analysis and the activity is safe. Unfortunately this isn't always the case. I suspect the visitors to White Island weren't informed of the risks which is a tragedy but the operator has being the tours for years and probably became a little complacent.
    A niece of mine did this tour about three or four weeks ago. She tells me that the release she had to sign before boarding the boat made it abundantly clear how risky it was. If this is correctly reported to me, rather than being 'wise after the event', is is clear that the visitors were informed, and in writing, and signed to say they were informed.
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