"Cheaper" oxy-acetylene

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

All that happened is that the sign on the gate was changed from CIG to BOC. Same premises, same products, same staff. Same ****ty business practices.

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Mergers and acquisitions are not a new concept in business.
Can you provide an example where a company acquires another at considerable expense, then proceeds to rip down the building, fires all the staff, changes their range of core products, and then completely changes everything they do (good practices and bad)?
Invalid argument is invalid.

I can't help but feel that you have an axe to grind regarding this subject? Every business / industry has its faults if you look deep enough. Happy to answer your questions / concerns if you want to get in touch?

Bunnings have a system for oxy & acet bottles,only for the 'D' size.

The system has only just started in Brisbane,may have been in other areas previously.

There is no rental,a deposit on each bottle of $200,then the cost of the gas.You keep the bottle as long as you want.Return the empty bottle and get your deposit back or take another and only pay for the gas.

The volume in the bottle is slightly more than the volume in the BOC bottles.Gas price very similar to BOC,slightly cheaper.

We have a couple of Coregas bottles now,as it is called and will gradually change the 8 we have over to Coregas.

Slightly over one years rental from BOC equals the deposits we will pay on the 8 bottles.

Convenience for us is another reason we will go the core gas way,Bunnings are everywhere,where the BOC branches and subbranches are getting less and less.

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Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

Also keep in mind HP oxygen can cause combustion of oils and greases without the presence of a flame. I rmember seeing a safety bulletin of a mechanic who dialled in a reg which was leaking from the HP side of the diaphraghm. His hands were covered in grease, the oxy ignited the grease, and his hand was burnt beyond recognition. Not many people know this fact about oxygen, so keep safe guys.

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I used to have a regular visitor to my caravan park. He was a retired plumber.

A few years age he tried to find the leak in the aircon in his Commodore. He hooked up his oxy bottle to pressurize the system.

Needless to say he was lucky to survive the explosion which blew apart his fibro garage as well as blowing apart his eardrums, leaving him almost stone deaf.

I was just returning a nitrogen bottle again to BOC Gasses, I did my whinge I always do about there crazy rental prices.... When the guy says "Hang on " ... pulls out a printout. "We can now do a deal, the "D" sized nitrogen is now $70 a year with two free refills in the first year... then one a year afterwards".

So basically $70 a year with a freebie gas fill thrown in. To put this into perspective. The bottle I just rented. I think I grabbed it last December:

-- $65.00 ( ~~ ) for the bottle of nitrogen
-- $17'ish a month for rental.

So that bottle has already cost me $150 to have here.

This deal also goes for welding gasses and shielding gasses. I just tried to find the link on there website, but it doesn't exist.

So guys, if you reckon you would use about 1 bottle a year of gas. It's basically rent free to grab a bottle of gas for your mig/sphere regasser/oxy set now. I'm guessing they will only offer this if you return a bottle and say "No I'm not paying rental" and don't swap it. If you just swap your existing bottle, they won't say ****, 'cos obviously they still have your business and will charge you ~$17 +++ a month ... for each bottle as always.

seeya
Shane L.

Looks like they have had to accept the fact they need to meet the market or risk losing an even bigger slice of the pie. I might hit them up again and see what I can sort out. I have a mate that reps for them - I'll give him a call.

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Looks like they have had to accept the fact they need to meet the market or risk losing an even bigger slice of the pie. I might hit them up again and see what I can sort out. I have a mate that reps for them - I'll give him a call.

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If you can get some details off him. Post them up, as it appears to NOT be in print anywhere. They must be only offering it to customers that are telling them to stick there bottle rental where the sun don't shine.... and returning the bottle. It will probably only be "D" sized too. So anyone that uses any sort of gas quantity will not be eligible.

seeya
Shane L.

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

I was just returning a nitrogen bottle again to BOC Gasses, I did my whinge I always do about there crazy rental prices.... When the guy says "Hang on " ... pulls out a printout. "We can now do a deal, the "D" sized nitrogen is now $70 a year with two free refills in the first year... then one a year afterwards".

So basically $70 a year with a freebie gas fill thrown in. To put this into perspective. The bottle I just rented. I think I grabbed it last December:

-- $65.00 ( ~~ ) for the bottle of nitrogen
-- $17'ish a month for rental.

So that bottle has already cost me $150 to have here.

This deal also goes for welding gasses and shielding gasses. I just tried to find the link on there website, but it doesn't exist.

So guys, if you reckon you would use about 1 bottle a year of gas. It's basically rent free to grab a bottle of gas for your mig/sphere regasser/oxy set now. I'm guessing they will only offer this if you return a bottle and say "No I'm not paying rental" and don't swap it. If you just swap your existing bottle, they won't say ****, 'cos obviously they still have your business and will charge you ~$17 +++ a month ... for each bottle as always.

seeya
Shane L.

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I will have to check that out as we use nitrogen from Heatcraft,a supplier to the Refrig and A/C trade.We use quite a few D size nitrogens a year,our rental per bottle is well over $17.00

And coincidently Heatcraft have just started selling D size oxy and acet.I haven't had a chance to have a good look at pricing,but did notice the oxy is very cheap at around $25 a D size bottle.

So BOC need to do something as they are getting competition from everywhere:)

Although, their big market is manufacturing plants,hospitals,etc.
Us little guys are probably not wanted,which is the way many big businesses operate.

Just imagine, as an example, how many $ their account with Qld health would be.

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Originally Posted by scarry

I will have to check that out as we use nitrogen from Heatcraft,a supplier to the Refrig and A/C trade.We use quite a few D size nitrogens a year,our rental per bottle is well over $17.00

And coincidently Heatcraft have just started selling D size oxy and acet.I haven't had a chance to have a good look at pricing,but did notice the oxy is very cheap at around $25 a D size bottle.

So BOC need to do something as they are getting competition from everywhere:)

Although, their big market is manufacturing plants,hospitals,etc.
Us little guys are probably not wanted,which is the way many big businesses operate.

Just imagine, as an example, how many $ their account with Qld health would be.

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Although you may be right, in this day and age, more than ever - 'every customer matters'. It's one of our core values at work. I give the same amount of dedication and ensure the job is done right for a cash customer spending $100 as I do to my biggest account customer - who spends over $1,000,000 a year with us. If you accept mediocrity, that's exacly what you end up with.

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Although you may be right, in this day and age, more than ever - 'every customer matters'. It's one of our core values at work. I give the same amount of dedication and ensure the job is done right for a cash customer spending $100 as I do to my biggest account customer - who spends over $1,000,000 a year with us. If you accept mediocrity, that's exacly what you end up with.

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True,we do the same with our customers.

One reason also is the customer you do the $200/year job for,may one day be your $1000000/year customer.

Last week I started the process of ridding myself the burden of BOC.

I ran out of mig gas so I took it back to BOC, politely told them they can stick their rented bottle where the sun don't shine,
then almost directly across the road went to Bunnings and picked up my rent free bottle.

Now just can't wait for my oxy and acetylene to run out