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I use a bit of 0.6. My biggest issue is it can wrap around the wire feeder in my welder. That's not the wires fault. I simply need to upgrade to a welder with a wire feed that supports the wire better.Quote:
Originally Posted by d2dave
seeya,
Shane L.
So would the following be good, bad, or average?Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger
AWS/ASME-SFA A5.18 ER70S-6
AS/NZS 14341-B G 49A 3U C S6, G 49A 3U M S6
Aaron
I don't understand your question. You've given a specification. The spec is what the spec is.
I guess an answer could be 'how good is the boilermaker' - can they produce a sound weld given the requirements of the joint to be made?
Is that specification near the middle or bottom of range of wire quality? It was less than half the price of the other more expensive wire. I was just curious as to if the wire was any good, seeing as you seemed to suggest that cheaper wires were of poor quality.
Aaron
You might be interested in this.
MIG Wire Selection
AWS / AS/NZ standard is a metallurgical standard. It is poorly policed, and in some manufacturing conditions, its a test on a whole crucible of metal which can have markedly different metallurgy between batches poured from this ladle.
Don't get me wrong, there is good quality and poor*er* quality products out there, each has their own place. I just don't see the logic of someone who gets concerned about the price of a premium product when their needs do not require a premium product. Akin to a customer walking into a porsche gallery wanting to buy a used car for under 10K.
On my own personal experience, If someone walked into my workplace and wanted Mig wire, not only could I show them 15+ different kinds, styles and probably blow their mind with all the specs and their applications, but they'd also be guaranteed a good product at a fair price. Many other suppliers will just point to the stack and ask how many you want, and their obligation to assisting you stops when the money hits their till.
That article was quite useful. It shows that there is more to MIG wire than just wire on a drum. It also explains some of the problems that I have been experiencing.
Aaron
In Queensland you can buy your own bottles from A mans Toy Shop or any speed gas outlet. I still have a full bottle, but I will be getting a speed gas bottle or a Bunnings one if they arrive up here. I know I can get Speed Gas if they dont.
http://www.amanstoyshop.com.au/produ....aspx?id=73911
Chris
Ahhh... they are still living in the good old days when you could sell mixed gases for $100 per cube.Quote:
Originally Posted by cafe latte
What's the rent worth to you guys? $50 a cube? $75? $80? The 'rent' on these cylinders is IN the horrendously high gas charge per cubic meter, and the lump sum you slap on the table to get into the speed swap program. I'd love to see the fine print about the 'deposit'- I dare say it would be null and void when you try return a cylinder out of test... but conveniently speed gas have a broken link on the T&C's on their webpage.
Not sure I know what you are talking about.. A friend has bought his bottle and has had no issues. There is no rent, you buy the bottle and just pay for the gas, that is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger
Far better than I have been doing up to now.
Chris
I think BOC gasses must be trying to **** the rest of there customer base off to the point where no-one can be bothered with them. My brother rings me this morning... He's bought and old forklift and needs an LPG bottle to get it off the trailer and into his shed. He's rang BOC gasses and they shut at 11:30am Saturdays ( FFS: Why don't they try opening 10:00 -> 2:00pm Saturdays so there actuallly useful. There is no way you would bother with them when most welding gasses these days can be purchased through bunnings and total tools (open 7days a week till 10:00pm at night).
Anyway, I load the 3 kids into the car ... drive all the way upto BOC gasses "Can I grab a forklift bottle mate"..... He looks up my account, acts kinda weird ... looks at me again ... then wanders out the door of the store... "which one is your car" .... "The old range rover" .... "I can't let you have a bottle".
for crying out bloody loud ... here we bloody go. I'd just turn a BBQ bottle upside down so we have liquid and not deal with this bloody useless company if I had my way ... but I don't have the quick release fitting on the forklift ..... "WHY".... "Well you can't carry LPG in the back of a car, you need a ute" ....... me: "Why the hell would I use a ute ... it would be an unrestrained load in the back" .... "It's not safe to carry an LPG bottle in your car" ...... "Well **** me, what about the two bottles already in there .... with the open gas taps the car is running from" .......................... Him: "no I can't do it" .... ME: "What if I want BBQ gas ... How the **** do people now get a BBQ bottle from you" ... Him: "They can carry 1 9kg bottle in there car, not two" .... Me: "what is the difference between 9kg or 18kg of LPG in the car ... Are you bottles that ****house you think they'll leak ?".... Him: " I just can't let you have it" ..... Me: "can I still take all the other gasses in my car" .. Him: "Yes" .... Me: "So your telling me I can take orderless, tasteless gasses that does not support life in a car .. where you would never know they are leaking, but gas that I would know if even the tiniest bit escaped instantly isn't Ok" ... Him: "Er, yes"..... Me: " :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: What if I get a trailer and let it bounce around unrestrained in the trailer" ... Him: "Yes that's fine"....
So I drive all the god damn way back home, get the trailer out of the paddock .... drive all the god damn way back there... Just getting there by now 11:25pm ( 5minutes before close). The 3 young kids in the back are far from impressed with being stuck in the car all this time. Go and get the bottle... Tell them, I'm going to buy my own and never deal with this useless bloody company ever again ( they are $350'ish on ebay with a connector that allows you to fill them at 50cents a litre at your local petrol station) walk past the bloody trailer (where it would be incredibly difficult to safely tie down) put it in the back of the range rover and tow the empty bloody trailer back home.
How the hell is BOC gases still in business when they go out of there way to **** the customer base off so much ?
seeya,
Shane L.