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    2 post hoists - clear floor or not

    Finally almost have a shed/carport that's high enough (3.6m wall height) to fit the County in with rooftop tent on (~2.4m).

    Looking at 2 post hoists, but seeking some advice from those who've used them on how much of a pain the non clear-floor models are to use.

    With a clear floor model - due to their overhead beam I need to go to an extra height hoist to be able to use all of the 3.6m+ height I've got available and and be able to walk under the chassis rails.
    Extra height definitely pushes the price up - looking at approx $500-800 extra for the higher models.

    The non clear-floor models with the balance cables across the floor are only limited by lift height not by an overhead beam so would seem less restricted, but I'm concerned that the balance cable part across the floor will be a pain - either tripping over it or by being in the way when trying to wheel things underneath.

    Anyone had experience with them? Are the clear floor models probably worth the extra in this situation or am I imagining a problem that isn't an issue in practice?

    Steve
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    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
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    Having had a screw post hoist with a bump across the floor for 20 years I can tell you they are a pain if you want to do transmissions. I've finally replaced it with a shiny new Summit clear floor hoist and I'm loving it. Don't stint yourself. After all it's a purchase you don't make every day.

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    The bump is a right royal pain if you are trying to move something around that doesn't move under it's own power as well.

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    Thanks guys.
    Transmissions is definitely one of the things I'll want to use it for, so looks like it will be a clear floor version then.

    Any recommendations on one with overall height around 3.8-4.0m mark gladly accepted

    Steve
    1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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    I have a ram and cable 2 poster and agree, the hump gets in the way sometimes. I use it predominately for exhaust and suspension work, but have had my Rangie on it a few times. Did my transfer case not that long ago, but two of us manhandled it in, the hump would have been in the way with trans jack. (Even though I didn't have one).

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    I wouldn't trust any of my shed floors enough for a 2post .... What about a 4post with belly lift ( yeah in my dreams ).

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    Clear floor for the win Steve G !☺☺

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    I've got a 2 pole with the cables going across the top. It's good to have a clear floor even when it's not being used as a hoist, just for ease of moving things around the shed.

    When we did the pour, we made the concrete 50% thicker in the area of the hoist legs, and put in extra reo-rod.

    I was pretty surprised at the minuscule footprint of these things, given how much weight they hold high up in the air, and the levering effect if things are not 'balanced'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    I've got a 2 pole with the cables going across the top. It's good to have a clear floor even when it's not being used as a hoist, just for ease of moving things around the shed.

    When we did the pour, we made the concrete 50% thicker in the area of the hoist legs, and put in extra reo-rod.

    I was pretty surprised at the minuscule footprint of these things, given how much weight they hold high up in the air, and the levering effect if things are not 'balanced'.
    At this stage I've only managed to secure one 4.5m wide bay for my Landy use. The other couple of bays have been allocated to the financial controller and her caravan. Still working on that situation, but its not as bad as it sounds as I have another 6x9 garage for workshop and a 40' container for storage, and I got approval for the extra wall height in this one...

    Means that I'll likely have to put up some sort of temporary wall/divider between the hoist and her car - so your point about moving things around when not using the hoist is even more applicable as there won't be any significant area at the sides.
    Not having the clear floor would pretty much stop me being able to move an engine on trolley/crane from one end to the other. Particularly something heavy like a 4bd1.

    Definitely sold on the clear floor type now.

    The concrete aspect seems to vary a bit between manufacturers. Most say min 100mm thick and general guide seems to be no significant cracks or edges within 900mm of the foot, but I've come across a couple that specified 150mm or more minimum.
    Have also seen some larger feet - 16mm plate about 700 square - that can be used if you're not 100% confident in the floor with the standard foot.
    My concrete isn't done yet so I can make it whatever thickness is required.

    Unfortunately I don't have any mates that do concrete work, and my body isn't up to it - so will have to pay a someone to do the lot

    Steve
    1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
    1988 120 with rust and potential
    1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
    2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive

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    This is the hoist that I bought for $5K:



    Summit ST4000 - Precision Automotive

    which specified a 150mm minimum thickness floor of 25MPa concrete, rather than the standard 20MPa domestic stuff. A load spreading kit was available at extra cost for weaker floors but I close to add my own load spreading extension to the side that had only 125mm of concrete under the post. Fortunately I had specified the stronger concrete as I already had a hoist to put up on it. Drilling the 20mm Dynabolt holes took some doing, I can tell you. It's the first time I've had to use pilot drills in concrete. For the first hoist 20 years ago I cheated and drilled the holes while the concrete was still curing, on day 2.

    And unlike the old screw post hoist I can open the hoisted vehicle's front doors to a reasonable angle because of the offset post design.

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