Replacement 100mm angle grinder ?

Guess there is a cordless v corded to think about here.

I have Makita cordless and find it magic to use....nine of the cords or distance from plug to worry about. Few spare batteries to keep my equipment going...one goes flat or low and swap and charge.

Especially handy when using multiple tools and not swapping connections or having lots of leads.....just something to think about.

Got a Hitachi corded...goes great as does my old....well its A Hitachi too, thought it was a Bosch....well over 10 years old...had it before emigrating.

I understand the cheap and long warranty argument but prefer a product to last and to work....nothing like being halfway through a job and then it craps itself......having to pack up to get it replaced is not always possible/easy!!

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Originally Posted by Vern

Do you rely on your tools to make a living? No? Well i do, i don't want to be chasing up warranty every six months, i need reliability and power to match it.
Doesn't matter where they are made, its how and what they are made from that counts!

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We all know that a Dewalt is a better bit of kit But is it 8-10 times a better bit of kit which is represented in the price difference?
If you want reliability just buy 2-3 times as many Ozito tools "just in case" and you will be miles ahead $ wise.
If you do have a problem with a tool then you will still have the availability whilst you are waiting for a replacement or if you are out bush on a job and one of them karks it [biggrin]
And lets face it No tradesman worth his/her salt will rely on a single tool without a backup option anyway.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

I bought a cheap $20 Ozito drill once and it lasted nearly 10 years on the farm, Maybe you are too hard on your tools or don't look after them properly and need to spend the extra quids because of this [bigwhistle]

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It's not about abusing them, or being too hard. Until you use something all day, everyday to make a living, I doubt you'd understand. Can't have something **** itself when on a job, that cost dollars - think about the time you need to run down to Bunnings and get a new one - would literally cost you $100 to $150 of lost productivity if you were just down the road and even more if you're remote and have to call it quits for the day because you don't have to tool you need to continue. All of a sudden the $1000 I paid for my drill seems pretty damn good value. I know which way I'll go myself. If you don't have to earn a living from them and only use them occasionally, then no problem, but certainly a big issue for Tradies.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

We all know that a Dewalt is a better bit of kit But is it 8-10 times a better bit of kit which is represented in the price difference?
If you want reliability just buy 2-3 times as many Ozito tools "just in case" and you will be miles ahead $ wise.
If you do have a problem with a tool then you will still have the availability whilst you are waiting for a replacement or if you are out bush on a job and one of them karks it [biggrin]
And lets face it No tradesman worth his/her salt will rely on a single tool without a backup option anyway.

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When you get 20 years out of a tool between failures, you don't need back ups. Yes, a good tool is worth 10 times more IMO. Nothing worse than using crap cheap **** IMO. You're welcome to it, but there's a world of difference between cheap and decent. Not to mention the **** you'd cop when you rolled into a building site with your Ozito tools - you'd get eaten alive on a big building site. ;)

My first angle grinder I bought from Kmart for $20.00- as at the time I did not have a workshop and needed it for a small job. It got abused for several years later - went through brushes though.
Finally replaced it with a Worx brand. Which has been very good the past 5 years. I had a vibration in it similar to what the OP described - turned out to be a bad bearing - replaced for $3.00.

I thought this was a thread for the home gamers? Now it's all about making a living out of them?
All tools, irrespective of initial cost or quality WILL die eventually. Fact.
If you are a home gamer, like mr OP seems to be, then the advice is buy cheap, replace when required. You could be pleasantly surprised.
When you're on a shutdown project and the job is held up for your bunnings trip, then yeah, no brainer... but I think this is outside of the original scope.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

We all know that a Dewalt is a better bit of kit But is it 8-10 times a better bit of kit which is represented in the price difference?
If you want reliability just buy 2-3 times as many Ozito tools "just in case" and you will be miles ahead $ wise.
If you do have a problem with a tool then you will still have the availability whilst you are waiting for a replacement or if you are out bush on a job and one of them karks it [biggrin]
And lets face it No tradesman worth his/her salt will rely on a single tool without a backup option anyway.

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Yes its 8-10 times better.
Whats the point of buy 2-3 **** quality tools thats are whats most important, crap to use!
Buy 1 good tool and you don't have these issues!
No REAL tradesperson would rely on rubbish tools like that. I had a crew of tradespersons that worked for me, none had or needed back up tools. Spend the money for reliabilty and performance quality

I worked for an electrical firm in Darwin and we did a lot of industrial type installations ( not house bashing) and we used Dewalt cordless tools much of the time.
Yes they are a great bit of kit But we did manage to bugger them up from time to time and that is why we carried spares when we were working at a remote location.
Regardless of what you buy Nothing is indestructible and to expect a dewalt to last 20 years with industrial use is a pipe dream.
I do agree that if your livelihood is dependant on your power tools then Dewalt is the way to go But for us average folk that sort of expense is an extravagance that is unwarranted just to do a bit of grinding or drill a few holes every now and then.
The OP is happy using his Black and Deckers so I imagine that the new lithium powered cordless Ozito's will be just as good if not better [thumbsupbig]

All my mates in construction (most of which either own the business or are in control.or finances and control procurement, but are also still on the tools to a degree) swear by Milwaukee. Very decent price, and will go all day on site (they flog their gear, public private partnership, so huge budgets). They won't go anything else for the most part. Excellent service from the company and price. Sydney based so they can go to Sydney tools for immediate warranty and replacement if needed. The CBA showed better off.

Personally, my gear isn't used as hard not as often so the ozito power xchange works for me, no issues at all. Depends on what the use is these days.

Thanks guys.....I think.
Two different camps in terms of buy cheap & rely on the long warranty or buy a 'brand' name.

My 'cheapie' B&D lasted 30 years but it was purchased before Chinese tools became prevalent, I think I paid 35GBP all those years ago. because I have others I'm not going to get stuck part way through a job and it's only for home use so I need to weigh up cost vs. perceived quality.

It hasn't died yet so I have time to look around and see what's available and Bunnings is only a few minutes from home.


Colin