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    My latest "treasure"

    This is the latest tool I've managed to scoop myself up from facebook marketplace.



    The boss women has to be impressed my abililty to buy scrap metal we don't need right ?
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    Oh I have since got this working ..... sort of .... in my usual DoubleChevron type manner. I'm sure readers of aussiefrogs will recognise this latest load of scrap metal
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    It made no sense how it worked until I realised the power post was two parts, and someone had ran two heavy beads of weld at the bottom to join them together.




    allowing me to dismantle the power pole into two pieces and unbolt the cross beam. It still made no sense how the ram was plumbed. I figured it all had to be hidden down at the base of the pole.... so out with the chisels, angle grinder, saber saw .... and anything else that could cut metal.







    What a mess right ?
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    So I figured before I start spending any money on this I better see if I can assemble it and check its all there...... which quickly turned to "better give everything a clean and lubricate it while its apart".







    I'm actually quite surprised how much work it was to give this a quick scrape down and splash of paint. Pretty much every paint I looked at had my wallet very unwilling to leave my pocket (gee's the expensive). the blue is machinary paint from the local paint shop. its a paint designed for spraying, but I just rolled it on (have to be fast so it doesn't set in the roller/brush). It sticks like merde to a blanket. As is the yellow. Now black, I was going to need far to much of that.... So I finally found septone underbody coating at supercheap ..... far more price friendly. its thick like tar, so I needed to thin it down with turps to even brush it on.







    The wheels free cross bars .... Are just insanely heavy.... well everything is. I can just live one end of all of this stuff to drag it. who would have thought "I" beams were so heavy.




    the only bits I haven't painted yet are the ramps cover plates.
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    I was insistent I wouldn't spend money on this thing until I was sure it was all there ..... hmmm.... $270 delivered for a new power pack .... wow that's cheap. How could I miss the chance to grab that ??




    a staggering $90 for a length of hose to connect it .... and we have hydraulic oil everywhere.




    The other holes in the ram.... that must have been for an overpressure valve that was removed. So I just welded it shut. It goes up and down quite smoothly.

    The only problem is NOW is when I find the missing bits. It took assembling it partially and working out how it all works to realise:




    I'm five pulleys short ( who would have thought you would need 13 of them ).


    and the pin on the top of the power post is missing. I've found its the exact size of a CAT 2 linkage pin. So I'll be able to cut down one of them to fit ...


    So all I need to do is chase up some pulleys ... and this thing should work well
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    If your get the opportunity to buy an old car hoist .... Don't hesitate! These days they are so simple to convert to single phase with the cheap online power packs. I didn't look at 2post hoists as my shed floor certainly is nowhere near good enough to support one (and my old hydraulic citroens can't get onto a 2 post hoist unless they are running.
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    It was really fascinating fiddling with this old hoist. I spent hours looking through pictures of hoists online trying to figure out .... what on earth it is. I finally found an advert for one in the UK..... finally....

    It appears to be an early Bradbury Wheels free hoist. They are still sold by Molner in Australia and appear to be almost the same hoist .... just with updated safeties.










    I managed to get the wheels free frames/Ibeams in place. it is so simple, its genius.





    This crossbar both ends, just clamps around the slotted cuttout on the post.




    and the crossbars just sit on these tags and get carried up and down with the ramps/hoist unit. If you click the levers over, they'll lock into the post and leave the jacking assembly behind.


    Its so simple how it works if you assemble it .... but almost impossible to work out from the pictures. everything painted blacked runs up and down the poles suspended by the cables. everything painted yellow is carried by the black parts. The yellow bits will mechanically lock into the posts using the ratchets you can see, so can be left behind when the ramps get lowered. These yellow parts will then hold the car up in the air leaving the car dangling (in a similar fashion to a 2post hoist). So a "wheels free" hoist.
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    Great job figuring it all out I reckon My latest "treasure"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobMichelle View Post
    Great job figuring it all out I reckon My latest "treasure"
    The pile of bits makes it appear almost impossible. It would help if you buy a hoist, buy one that is intact and pull it apart yourself. I only paid $400 for this one, which would be a lot less than its scrap metal value (its HEAVY!). What helped a lot was finding out what it was so I could download some installation instructions (this allowed me to figure out the cable routing).

    I actually thought I'd made quite a mistake. You see when I found I was five pulleys short, I looked everywhere. Yes, readily available, but they were looking to be at least $250 each. Which means I'm never going to afford to replace them. So I contact the guy I purchased it from saying "Help please".... and he sent me this.




    I'm the luckiest person there is. He was moving cars between his sheds and found this in the tray of one of his utes. A spare set of cables and the missing pulleys!
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    I'm still wasn't really happy with the way this hoist stays up if the wheels free beams aren't being used.







    So how this works is that pivot is spring loaded to strongly wedge into the pole... If there is tension on the hoist cables, they will hold the pivot centered. If the cable breaks (or becomes slack). The spring will wedge wedge the bracket into the pole.







    this is a concern though, all three of these rods had quite a bit of paint on them. that isn't a thread cut into the poles, it a machined recess every millimeter or so, that way if the cable breaks and that pivot locks in, its going to lock in hard into the cutouts in the poles. Only the paint was so thick in places, the rods were nearly smooth. A lot of work with a wire bush in an angle grinder had got them nice and clean.

    I'm not really satisfied at all with this. The only manuals I could find for this hoist have another ratchet assembly (not this post) inside the poles. So this is possibly a very old hoist. Basically it is 100% relying on the cables to hold the car up in the air, and will then "catch" the car if the cable breaks.

    What I'm thinking I will do it fabricate so bracket that lock the ramps cross beam solidly into the wheels free beam. So if your not using the wheels free mechanism. This way the wheels free mechanical ratchets will mechanically lock the ramps into place (so the cables are not being relied on). I'm thinking possibly something like a CAT 1 linkage pin to lock the two cross beams together. That way you can pull the pins if you wish to use the jacking beams
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    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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